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NutLoose 21st Sep 2016 09:24

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...yria-us-russia

DroneDog 21st Sep 2016 09:47

The problem I have is that if you watch Live Leak the Syrian section you will see the Syrian rebels / ISIS seem to have unlimited supplies of the latest US anti-tank missiles. I can't find them anywhere on eBay so where are they buying these from and what happens if a few turn up in the west, a lot more punch than a pressure cooker.

Lonewolf_50 21st Sep 2016 13:56

@DroneDog: I think we discussed this on this very forum a few years back when the Iraqi army ran away from a fight in north/central Iraq (Mosul area?) and left quite a bit of kit lying about for the Daesh sorts to pick up at their leisure. Won't comment on other sources in the region for black market military kit, but I don't doubt that there are numerous.

TEEEJ 21st Sep 2016 19:32

Bellingcat analysis of the Syrian Red Crescent Aid convoy attack.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena...-aid-analysis/

Wokkafans 21st Sep 2016 21:04

Deleted - false news report

Pontius Navigator 21st Sep 2016 21:08

Wander, saw one video, supposedly Russian monitoring an aid convoy and tracking an ISIS armoured vehicle. Fine but it doesn't follow that they then targeted it.

dead_pan 22nd Sep 2016 08:34

Russia's (alleged) targeting of the UN aid convoy in (alleged) response to mistaken coalition attack on Syrian forces may indicate that Russia may have taken casualties in this attack too (Russian SF?).

Did I read somewhere that the forces attacked were dressed as irregulars and driving technicals?

dead_pan 22nd Sep 2016 08:39


saw one video, supposedly Russian monitoring an aid convoy and tracking an ISIS armoured vehicle. Fine but it doesn't follow that they then targeted it.
Hmm, it does suspiciously end before anything interesting happens. The line being spun on Russian media is that the militants then attacked the convoy (the usual Russian up-is-down black-is-white propaganda).

ShotOne 22nd Sep 2016 08:40

If that were the case it would indicate a self-destructive streak. The US claims to have informed Russian counterparts of the attack coordinates in advance and that they cynically delayed doing anything about it.

Wander00 22nd Sep 2016 11:30

I am only going on what I see on the news, I guess if barrel bombs it would been more likely to be Assad's minions, if something more sophisticated themn I would suspect Russia, official or "deniable"

racedo 22nd Sep 2016 21:18


The US claims to have informed Russian counterparts of the attack coordinates in advance
Er MSF supplied coordinates of its hospitals previously and they never seem to have been passed on.

TEEEJ 22nd Sep 2016 22:35

More analysis on the Syrian Red Crescent aid convoy attack.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena...convoy-attack/

ORAC 23rd Sep 2016 07:22

Shrapnel and bomb fin expose Kremlin?s lies | World | The Times & The Sunday Times

The Kremlin’s version of events surrounding the attack on an aid convoy in which 20 civilians died is demonstrably false, according to analysts in Russia and the UK (Tom Coghlan and Tom Parfitt write).

The Conflict Intelligence Team (CIT), an independent, Russia-based group of analysts, used geo-location technology to analyse drone footage released by Moscow to support its claim that a rebel military vehicle towing a large mortar was travelling with the doomed convoy. After studying the position of the sun and satellite images of the location, they concluded that the footage was filmed five hours before the attack and almost four miles from where it took place.........

TEEEJ 24th Sep 2016 16:00

Claimed to be footage from the Red Crescent convoy attack. Aircraft cannon fire at 1:05, 1:40. 2:21 missile strike?


DroneDog 26th Sep 2016 13:30

That Bellingcat report...

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena...convoy-attack/

How come the medicine packaging around the bomb (intentional explosive) is untouched.

TEEEJ 26th Sep 2016 14:43


Originally Posted by DroneDog (Post 9521031)
That Bellingcat report...

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena...convoy-attack/

How come the medicine packaging around the bomb (intentional explosive) is untouched.

Possibly the bomb tail is from a previous attack on the building/compound? Possibly the bomb didn't explode?

Claims that the Russian UAV convoy footage shows that the hole in the roof was already there prior to the convoy being attacked.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtOMDCCWAAA_hzk.jpg:large

recceguy 27th Sep 2016 10:26


Originally Posted by TBM -Legend
Some 15,000 French civilians killed on or about D-Day. Collateral damage was expected. They didn't cancel Operation Overlord because of this..

Exactly - the important thing is to bomb, isn't it ? and you wonder why they still hate you for that....

Regarding Syria, immediately after the US/UK strike, jihadists came out of their trenches to attack the bombed positions, which was also pure hasard (as the fact that the bombed hill was strategic in the defense of Deir Az Zor airport, a besieged isolated area in eastern Syria (where nobody from the mainstream media will be there to make a movie about those bombings) And you still want us to believe there was no coordination ?

DroneDog 27th Sep 2016 14:43

I smell a large rat....


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