Birthday Honours 2016
 

A bit of a shortage of RAF awards compared to RN and Army

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...itary_list.pdf

Royal Air force does seem under-represented. I see Dame Vera Lynn has been made a CH. Back in the 80s when I was Treasurer of RAF Equitation , the sqn ldr who was Secretary (sorry, cannot recall his name) was DV's son in law. She came along with her husband to every competition, mainly Cranwell and Halton, and presented the prizes. She was a delightful person and did the job brilliantly. Congratulations and thanks, Dame Vera.

Wander00,
Would that be Tom Jones, our crewman leader during Corporate?

A bit of a shortage of RAF awards compared to RN and Army - OTTB

....and, without wishing to add fuel to the fire, an interesting "extra-terrestrial" award, namely a CMG, for Major Tim Peake.....:ok:

Jack

I seem to remember him Chinook, hanging in a load net on the winch of a parked Wessex at Upavon, but I could have got him mixed up.

I guess it shows someone in the Honours Committee has a sense of humour given that the Order generally relates to overseas service.

Still, ref the comments on RAF awards, I do sometimes wonder whether it's ingrained in our organsational DNA as this is a comment that comes up every year. The RAF has always had a reputation for being a bit more egalitarian than its sister services - family ties, Regimental history, school attended have always been less important than aptitude and ability, so maybe when people do well it's just viewed as a case of doing your job rather than anything deserving of an award. Indeed, it would be interesting to see how many RAF recipients were written up by a RAF chain of command or by a Joint CoC. Maybe I'm being overly generous in equating it to our egalitarian nature, maybe we just aren't as good at recognising people as we should be.

Chinook - clever guy, you have it in one - Tom Jones it was. If anyone is in contact please pass on my best wishes to him, and through him to his Mother in Law

Service numbers
 

My service number starts 801 and if I'd stayed to age 55 would have retired 7 years ago.
The WO honoured has number starting 821 which gives an indication of number to join time. The AVM,one Gp and Sqn Ldr have 802 numbers. Are they former Apprentices and if not too personal, over 55?
PS. Anyone know how to keep 2 Windows open at once on a kindle so I don't have to write the info down when replying on PPRUNE

I was an 802 and joined in 85....not an apprentice and not over 55!

Re the Honours List - well done Bad Boy aka Face. I'm sure there will be a few former senior officers from Finningley days choking on their cornflakes this morning!

Service numbers used to be batched, I'm an ex Technician Apprentice and all of us (unless we remustered) were '815's from the early 70's until the scheme ceased in the 90's. It used to be possible to work out peoples base trade from their service number, sadly lost when the new system was introduced.

List appears to have gone missing on the web page?

Here is the QBHL2016 ... Including other Command Awards.

RAF - The Queen?s Birthday Honours List 2016

can't really complain if you believe the hons are given on merit - you'd expect year-to-year variation in awards between the Services

If , on the other hand, you think they're some sort of automatic entitlement ..................

Totally agree though some of them you do wonder about, such as an OBE for running daddies company (Claire Williams)

Except that some Tech Apps in the late 70's were 8019 and 8020

Nutloose, do you know Claire Williams? Do you know exactly what she does within the Williams F1 company; how hard she works; how her efforts, leadership and vision have contributed to the company? How is this any different from Wing Commander Bloggs running the RAF's squadron?

Clearly you're on the Honours Committee to assert she only got it because of Daddy.

Or, you're keen to pass judgement on something you know absolutely nothing about.

I know where I'd bet.

You missed the point I was trying to make.

Possibly because one has reached that position through sheer hard work that is being rewarded by an honour and the other possibly simply because of their birth.

Rather like awarding each other awards, simply because they are your children, such as what happens within the Royal family.

Tech Apps from their inception in 1964 were 0690***.

So was I, and joined in '70 ... but originally had a letter in front of it.

ISTR that Tom met Vera Lynn's daughter (who was also her manager) at some of the post-Falklands celebrations/commemorations in which they were both involved.

And the rest was history......... :ok: