Genstabler; absolutely. The only reason the EU are interested in the UK staying in is our net £ contribution, but more importantly, a brexit would give a lead to others who are also dissatisfied with the present situation.

BEagle. I am so sorry that you have given up on the country that you lived in and served. You are correct in saying the UK is no longer some isolated insular state. As long as we remain in the EU we are in fact no longer an independent and sovereign nation at all. We are an increasingly disenfranchised minor province in a federal political institution that is growing in size, ambition, remoteness and authority and failing in everything else. I hope you enjoy your future as a citizen of the EU and that the unelected, faceless, foreign bureaucrats who you are choosing to allow to govern your life will grant you and your descendants a secure and comfortable existence.

We are already " western Europe" according to the EU map of regions. I am delighted that they have decided to rename our part of the continent. Did they ask anyone?!

Hmm, I think know the one. Had to intervene in a little set-to outside there a few months back when one of the 'new arrivals' got a bit confused by the road priorities and was getting an earful from a local. Not pretty. This particular genie is going to be b*gger to get back in the lamp.

Anyhow, I'm guessing this debate has been done to death and then some on JB.