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Fonsini 19th Jan 2016 02:03

Tornado ADV for sale
 
Makes me feel strangely old seeing an F2A for sale, remembering when they were new.

http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=1087984

Rhino power 19th Jan 2016 09:24

Another candidate for RAF Leicestershire, at Bruntingthorpe! ;)

-RP

London Eye 19th Jan 2016 12:16

2.2M - but that would beyond VNE := (I tried, I REALLY did but did anyone get to 2.2?)

Fonsini 19th Jan 2016 14:13

London Eye - so how close did you get, any draggy external stores, what altitude, were you wearing a white silk scarf etc etc :8

27mm 19th Jan 2016 14:48

1.95M / 750KDAS for Wayne and I, on a jet collected from Warton.

London Eye 19th Jan 2016 16:06

Fonsini: Fifth amendment, pylons only (no acquisition mx), 30s and 40s and no white scarf!

Above The Clouds 19th Jan 2016 16:22


London Eye
2.2M - but that would beyond VNE (I tried, I REALLY did but did anyone get to 2.2?)
Are your sure thats not MMO :)


27mm
1.95M / 750KDAS for Wayne and I, on a jet collected from Warton.
I heard the 750Kt was exceeded, once.

EAP86 19th Jan 2016 21:22

I heard that during development they accidentally discovered that the ASI stopped reading at 825 KIAS.

PS Didn't KDAS only come in with Typhoon?

EAP

Lima Juliet 19th Jan 2016 23:14

For the F3, I'd have to delve into my logbook but defo over M2 - seem to remember it was a clean jet (no pylons) and before they wound back the fuel control units. I think it was M2.15 having just filled up from the Texaco, but it's all so very long ago now.

As for IAS, excursions above 750kts were commonplace at low level - the jet was incredibly quick. In the Falklands I've been 870kts low level over the sea with 2 Skyflash and 2 Sidewinders and the jet wanted to go faster (we decided to stop there). Many went faster than that and I even heard that 999 was achieved (or above as the numbers don't get any bigger). The fins of the Skyflash used to buzz around 600kts and then stop above that.

F2s were slower than F3s - less thrust, less fuel and aerodynamically draggier!

By the way, here is a picture of Fg Off Sammy Seal doing 825kts+ (the rear cockpit ASI stopped at 825)...

http://s27.postimg.org/hoz90363n/image.jpg

That's not my knee, I hasten to add!

LJ

Lima Juliet 19th Jan 2016 23:29

PS. Here is the same ASI reading zero (against the stops the other way!)

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/...bAE/s-l225.jpg

Fishtailed 19th Jan 2016 23:33

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...pskfqqqigp.jpg

Fastest I've ever been 760kts (no, never got to fly in Concorde:{)

Stitchbitch 20th Jan 2016 06:11

Might not have been the fastest, but an F.3 in full burner at 100 ft over XXX FC courtesy of JG & PB was always impressive, apart from the having to pick up all the tools that pinged off the tool board each time they practised their routine :) Happy days.

John Eacott 20th Jan 2016 09:59

On the subject of matters Tonka, this image has recently done the rounds with credits to Adrian Meredith who states:


April 1985 Concorde flies supersonic G-BOAG
This is a dramatic picture of Concorde flying at supersonic speed. This is the only picture ever taken of Concorde flying at Mach 2, 1,350 mph. This unique picture was taken by me from a Tornado fighter jet, which only rendezvoused with Concorde for just 4 minutes over the Irish Sea, Photograph by Adrian Meredith Welcome to Concorde Photos - Concorde Photos and Memorabilia
The RAF Tornado rapidly running out of fuel, and was struggling to keep up with Concorde, at Mach 2.
Would a Tornado be able to intercept and stay with a M2.0 Concorde for 4 minutes?

http://www.eacott.com.au/gallery/d/7...2+Concorde.jpg

Wander00 20th Jan 2016 11:03

That is just such a beautiful photograph of a stunning aeroplane (I know I am biased, but then I helped build two noses and visors, at Marshalls)

gr4techie 20th Jan 2016 11:21

The photos of the F2 cockpit look quite bizarre. Looks like it has been stripped out and replaced with Typhoon displays. Was this F2 used Typhoon avionic trials?

http://www.barnstormers.com/listing_...php?id=1087984

ORAC 20th Jan 2016 11:57


The photos of the F2 cockpit look quite bizarre. Looks like it has been stripped out and replaced with Typhoon displays. Was this F2 used Typhoon avionic trials?
As the linked ad says....

"Trials aircraft known as TIARA used for radar trials and avionics research / evaluation. Unique cockpit with MFD screens and prototype holographic HUD."

http://barnstormers.com/tmp_images/3...9594771ec1.jpg

EAP86 20th Jan 2016 15:09

The TIARA F2 (AT002?) cockpit was a Boscombe Down research project which had no direct relationship to the Typhoon cockpit programme. From the picture you can see the aspect ratios of the MFDs are different. I think the TIARA and Typhoon programmes ran in parallel during the late 90s. Responsible for the Typhoon cockpit design, Warton had gained a fair amount of MFD experience on the EAP ( :ok: ) in the 2nd half of the 80s.

EAP

Thelma Viaduct 21st Jan 2016 00:15

How did the EAP perform compared to ADV and now Typhoon? Was it all metal construction or did it have composite wings, titanium canards like Typhoon?? Ta

Fonsini 21st Jan 2016 01:30

I always wondered how Foxhunter (stage 2) stacked up against its American peers. We all know it was an embarrassment at first but worked well after the bugs were worked out.

ORAC 21st Jan 2016 05:33

FMICW, jknown at the time as F**k Me, It Can't Work. :\


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