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RHKAAF 27th Dec 2015 21:18

MOD Pension
 
Just a thought, but can anyone confirm that my RAF pension will still be indexed linked if I go to live abroad ?
I know the OAP is not at the moment ,though apparently there are thoughts to link it in the future but not to backdate the change.

kaitakbowler 27th Dec 2015 22:01

Err, just a thought, why don't you ask the pension provider?

PM

MFC_Fly 28th Dec 2015 00:22

Maybe because it is a bank holiday weekend and RHKAAF thought someone on here may be helpful :rolleyes:

Darwinism 28th Dec 2015 00:53

I live in Australia now any my RAF pension isn't index linked - sorry.

MPN11 28th Dec 2015 08:42

State and Service pensions both UK-Index-Linked in Jersey. Both paid free of UK tax, and taxed here instead.

We are a bit of an oddity, though ... A Crown Dependency, not part of the UK and happily not in the EU.

Yeller_Gait 28th Dec 2015 09:45


Originally Posted by Darwinism (Post 9221867)
I live in Australia now any my RAF pension isn't index linked - sorry.

Your RAF pension should be index linked, but not your UK State Pension.

Y_G

Pontius Navigator 28th Dec 2015 11:04

Index linking of OAP depends on country of emigration, for instance Canada no and USA yes. Similarly OZ and NZ no, but EU etc is yes.

I am not sure about the Caribbean Islands (ex Colonies) but I think they are OK as the index linked policy is based on reciprocity.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/p...-overseas.html

http://britishexpats.com/forum/austr...nsions-155113/

Once you are permanently abroad then you should not be paying UK tax.

MPN11 28th Dec 2015 11:16

What a bizarre listing at the end of that first link, PN :hmm:

Courtney Mil 28th Dec 2015 11:35

RHKAAF,

Start by telling us where you're moving to and which pension scheme do you belong to? The answer to your question will depend on that and may be different for state pension and AFPS. There are also some points about tax you will need to know about.


Originally Posted by PN
Once you are permanently abroad then you should not be paying UK tax.

Not true. For example, the Dual Tax agreement with France, means I pay tax on a UK government pension in the UK, despite being permanently resident in France.

MFC_Fly 28th Dec 2015 11:36

See kaitakbowler, there are some useful people on the forum ;)

The info provided will give RHKAAF something to think about until he gets the opportunity to confirm it officially with his/her pension provider.

MPN11 28th Dec 2015 11:44


Not true. For example, the Dual Tax agreement with France, means I pay tax on a UK government pension in the UK, despite being permanently resident in France.
... whereas here in JER the Tax authorities insisted both pensions were taxed in JER, and paid gross in UK, despite a Dual Taxation agreement. I accepted the better Tax position here with my usual good grace ;)

camelspyyder 28th Dec 2015 13:47

I bet you need every penny of pension to live in Jersey. I'm a qualified resident there myself, but have no plans to return when I'm a pensioner.

MPN11 28th Dec 2015 17:15


Originally Posted by camelspyyder
I bet you need every penny of pension to live in Jersey. I'm a qualified resident there myself, but have no plans to return when I'm a pensioner.

I guess it t depends on personal circumstances, and how many/good pensions you have [we have 2 Service and 2 State ones]. But I estimate about £5,000 p/a cheaper than when we were living in Camberley, taking account of Tax, Rates and Utilities. YMMV, of course.

(I will ignore house prices, which is a separate subject altogether!)

fergineer 29th Dec 2015 22:07

I live in NZ and my RAF Pension is index linked, same rules apply up to the age of 55 when as per everyone in the UK it is not index linked, well that was how my pension worked.

Tankertrashnav 29th Dec 2015 22:39

Son lives in Netherlands and his British Army pension is not counted as part of his income there for tax purposes. As it is slightly less than his UK tax allowance he pays no UK tax on it either as he has no other income here. He's hoping the Dutch dont follow France's lead as that would cost him! Index linking not yet applicable as he is stilll in his 40s.

Courtney Mil 29th Dec 2015 23:08

Follow France's lead?

Surplus 29th Dec 2015 23:31

I'm in Oz and my RAF pension was index linked when I hit 55.

BBadanov 30th Dec 2015 00:40

I'm in Oz and my RAF pension was index linked when I hit 55.


Yep, I am the same. OAP is not index linked however, as outside the EU.

Skeleton 30th Dec 2015 03:25

I am in Oz and asked this question recently and was told told that my pension will be index linked when I reach 55 but my OAP will not be. Courtney is right about tax, dual citizen or not, you will still be taxed on your pension is the information I was, it has to be said, curtly given. If they got the last bit wrong I would be delighted to know.

ImageGear 30th Dec 2015 07:10

This may help for France...
 
Regarding UK OAP Pension taxation at source:

An exemption can be obtained with this form...

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...nce-individual

This form also includes company pension annuity payments, but not income derived from other sources such as property rentals.

It has to be completed and delivered to your local French Impots Office who, in my case about 2 months ago, knew exactly what to do with it. Both sections must be completed but they just duplicate the same data.

There is also the option to have the pensions paid directly into a French bank account.

Imagegear


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