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Willard Whyte 7th Nov 2015 19:43

Airfix Victor
 
Due late next year, available for pre-order . Might be of interest for any ex-Victor mates with an interest in scale modelling.

https://admin.hornby.com/wp/wp-conte.../11/ImageA.jpg

https://admin.hornby.com/wp/wp-conte.../11/ImageB.jpg

https://admin.hornby.com/wp/wp-conte.../11/ImageC.jpg

B.2, but surely won't be long before an aftermarket company comes up with a K.2 conversion package.

Airfix Exclusive 2016 news - Airfix at IPMS Telford / News |

Tengah Type 7th Nov 2015 20:43

In 1983 Matchbox issued a 1/72 Victor K2 model (Ref PK551). You could build it with either 55, 57 Sqn or 232 OCU markings. One option was to have the Pod and HDU hoses trailed. One day I will get around to building it. It cost £4:50 rather than the Airfix offer of £ 54:99.

Willard Whyte 7th Nov 2015 21:23

Wouldn't argue with the value comparison. Airfix have upped their game of late, bit better than MB of ~30 years ago. 'Tis only money, after all.

Quality costs.

MAINJAFAD 7th Nov 2015 21:46

When Airfix did the Valiant, they released a IP conversion kit (with decals) a while later that allowed the PR and tanker versions to be built. I suspect Airfix will do the same of this one. Current rate for the Matchbox Victor which has just been re-released by Revell is around £18.50 (it is a pig of a kit to build, so I suspect the Airfix one is actually better value for money).

reds & greens 7th Nov 2015 21:56

Chine and rear fuselage look a little 'boxy' to me.

RedhillPhil 7th Nov 2015 22:12

"Chine and rear fuselage look a little "boxy" to me".


Agreed but given the way that Airfix have upped their game I suspect that it's a trick of the light. I wonder of we're going to see a Blue Steel 100/139 sqd one?

MAINJAFAD 7th Nov 2015 22:28

Photo of the kit has a Blue Steel under it so 100 or 139 Sqn markings will be in the kit.

Rhino power 7th Nov 2015 23:04


Originally Posted by reds & greens (Post 9173652)
Chine and rear fuselage look a little 'boxy' to me.

The images are only cg 3D renders, the finished article will, I'm sure, be much more accurate looking...

-RP

Tankertrashnav 7th Nov 2015 23:32

Nice, but shame its not a B1. I have a vague idea there was a Frog model of a B1, but I may be wrong. The original B1, in anti-flash white, before they started sticking bits on it (it didn't even even windscreen wipers to start with) was the most elegant post war jet IMOH.

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 7th Nov 2015 23:53

The Frog kit was 1/96 scale. Odd but still effective. If it was like the Vulcan MK1 kit, it fitted where it touched. Still easier than carving one out of a block of wood, though. :ok:

BEagle 8th Nov 2015 07:08

There was also the Lindberg 'Remote Control British Jet Bomber' model of the Victor - I had one as a Christmas present back in the early 1960s. I think it was 1/96 scale; the model sat on a ball and socket stand top and was connected to the 'remote control' joy stick by a couple of lengths of piano wire running in plastic tubes from the stick unit via the stand to connections under each wing. Moving the joystick caused the model to move on the stand, which caused the relevant control surfaces to move in sympathy via a 'suitable system of levers' made from polystyrene and fitted inside the fuselage.

The 'remote control' aspect was rather fragile though - the plastic tubing would often come away from the stand or the under wing studs.

Haraka 8th Nov 2015 08:30

Anigrand do a Resin Victor K2 in 1:144 scale for around $88 ( to soften the blow they also include a Westland Wessex, Fairey Delta 1 and an Armstrong Whitworth AW 52).
The same firm does the other two "V"s in similar packages.
I did all three 1:144 Welsh Model Vacform "V"s years ago . No problems and don't take up a huge amount of shelf space.

Nerd switch to "Off".

P.S. If anybody does get the Anigrand product and doesn't wan't the "bonus" kits do drop me a P.M.

Re-select "Off"

CoffmanStarter 8th Nov 2015 08:57

There are models and there are MODELS :eek:

I just wish I had both the skill to build and fly this 'little' beauty ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_dYlE4ic-f4


Pontius Navigator 8th Nov 2015 09:19

Which wing will it have? B2 or K2?

oxenos 8th Nov 2015 09:23

Surprised he didn't roll it.










Sorry, wrong thread

LowObservable 8th Nov 2015 12:07

Nice, Beags... I did the B-58. Early FBW experience.

pr00ne 8th Nov 2015 13:31

MAINJAFAD

"Photo of the kit has a Blue Steel under it so 100 or 139 Sqn markings will be in the kit."

That'll be rather odd, seeing as the Wittering wing was run on a centralised servicing basis for it's entire existence and the aircraft were never allotted to the two squadrons.

The Wittering Lion should be the only unit marking worn.

ExAscoteer 8th Nov 2015 18:54

I saw the Airfix Victor at Telford today. It looks pretty bloody good to me!

MAINJAFAD 8th Nov 2015 19:01

PrOOne.

We are both correct. You in case that the majority of the aircraft wore the Wittering wing lion, Me in the case that at least four aircraft at Wittering in anti flash wore Squadron markings (XM718 and XH675 in the case of 100 Sqn andXL158 and XL512 in the case of 139 Sqn).

glad rag 8th Nov 2015 19:18

Here ya go.....



Martin the Martian 8th Nov 2015 20:02

A few B.2Rs of No.139 Squadron wore the squadron badge initially, while they were still painted in anti-flash white. There is a photograph in volume 25 of the International Air Power Review of XL158 so marked, carrying a Blue Steel.

polecat2 8th Nov 2015 20:13

There's a photo of a white B2 XL190 in 139 Sqn markings in "Bomber Squadrons of the RAF" by Philip Moyes.

Polecat

MAINJAFAD 9th Nov 2015 05:23

A test shot (3d print) was on display at Telford this weekend and was in the Anti Flash scheme of XL512 in 139 Sqn markings. Rumour has it that the decal options will be that aircraft plus a camouflaged one in Wittering wing markings.

It's a Victor! - Page 6 - The Rumourmonger - Britmodeller.com

Autobahnstormer 1st Dec 2015 14:00

The intakes on the Victor at Telford looked incorrect, dare I say, looked a bit 'Mark One-ish'. The development engineer refused to answer my questions regarding the Mk1, one of the few 1/72 Models that is lacking IMHO. I've built nearly every Victor model going - Frog, Lindberg 1/96, Revell 1/96, Matchbox 1/72 and I still have at least five in the stash.
Come-on Airfix, make a Mk1!
ABS

Guzz 1st Dec 2015 16:34

I'm sure the aftermarket bods will come along with some very reasonably priced resin corrections for those intakes....

Having said that, it's good to see Airfix updating some of the Cold War British kit. I'm sure I'll be building some for my customers at some point. Just got to finish their pig of a TSR.2.... Joy!

Guzz.

Chugalug2 1st Dec 2015 17:56

The sales spiel on their site is here:-

Airfix A12008 Handley Page Victor B.2 1:72

If you know the aircraft, I'm sure that the errors will grate. I remember the nose below the windscreens of the Hercules C Mk1 was wrong, being concave into the radome instead of the convex of the pressure hull. I would have gladly traded the Bloodhound missile complete with attendant Snow-Drop and his dog ("Stop, or I shall release my handler!") that came with it, if they had just got that bit right. All that despite the many 3D photos taken by them from all angles of a hangared aircraft at LYN.

MAINJAFAD 1st Dec 2015 20:00


I would have gladly traded the Bloodhound missile complete with attendant Snow-Drop and his dog ("Stop, or I shall release my handler!") that came with it

Which was the biggest error in that Herc kit, seeing that RAF Bloodhound Mk 1 was gone before the RAF were even told that they were getting the aircraft. Had they put RAAF marking on the decal sheet and canned the Landrover and the guys in the battledress (plus the Snow-drop with the brain on the chain) it would have been a bit more accurate. Saying that the missile kit is full of errors as well.

chevvron 2nd Dec 2015 00:04

An ex OC Flying at Farnborough (Dave Bywater I think) told me once how he had 'inadvertantly' exceeded Mach 1 in a B2.

Kitbag 2nd Dec 2015 10:59

Don't know about the B2, but I seem to remember the prototype B1 is alleged to have done so in Robert Jacksons V-Bombers.
It certainly looked like a rocket ship from Flash Gordon.

Tankertrashnav 2nd Dec 2015 14:46

Not only the B1 but the K1 did it as well. Here's a link to Tony Cunnane's site where he recounts the story of going supersonic over Paris. I've provided this link in the past, but worth a read for those who haven't seen it before.

We go supersonic overhead Paris with 4 Lightnings in tow - Tony Cunnane's
Autobiography



It certainly looked like a rocket ship from Flash Gordon
Agreed Kitbag - an opinion shared by Nikita Kruschev's son who said it was the best looking of the Vs (quoted on a BBC TV programme about cold war jets a few years back!) Certainly prettier than those big slabby tin triangle thingies ;)

LowObservable 2nd Dec 2015 17:55

Could anyone here ever figure out how to get the dog in the Bloodhound kit to stand up?

By the way, Mainjafad, the Bloodhound had been sold separately for several years before the C-130K came out, which is why it was the wrong variant.

Haraka 2nd Dec 2015 18:18


Could anyone here ever figure out how to get the dog in the Bloodhound kit to stand up
Glue it to a baseboard and cut and flex one rear leg out 45 deg?

MAINJAFAD 2nd Dec 2015 22:47


By the way, Mainjafad, the Bloodhound had been sold separately for several years before the C-130K came out, which is why it was the wrong variant.
.

1959 actually, and the figures were based on photos of the SAGW trials wing at North Coates when they opened their gates to the Press in October 1958.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7YVdiw1jSw


The RAAF did carry theirs in Hercs as shown


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQpSEpL2R78


Airfix never did the Mk 2, which is a pity as that was in operational service from 1965 to 1991, while the Mk 1 was only actually operational from Nov 1960 to mid 1964. Plenty of Mk 2's moved by Hercs (and most of the 4 engine cargo aircraft, they even managed to get one into a Britannia once.)


The Airfix Herc I got in the late 1970s didn't have the Missile or the dog in it.

LowObservable 3rd Dec 2015 03:28

Further research indicates why the dog looks uncomfortable.

http://modelingmadness.com/review/vi...waldbloodc.jpg

Martin the Martian 4th Dec 2015 11:10

Indeed. You might say that the three crew figures seem quite heartless about it.

BEagle 4th Dec 2015 12:58

The kit I had back in 1960 was in white and came in the usual 2/- polythene bag from Woolies.

The RAFP weren't quite so gay and I don't think that they all wore those awful French onion-johnnies' berets? The dog still fell over though.

TorqueOfTheDevil 4th Dec 2015 14:05


Indeed. You might say that the three crew figures seem quite heartless about it.
Some would say that they had no capacity to worry about the dog because of the sheer effort of keeping in step...

MAINJAFAD 4th Dec 2015 14:17


I don't think that they all wore those awful French onion-johnnies' berets?
They didn't. There were two figures with SD caps, one was the plod, the other was the pissed off Aircrew Officer who had been posted on to Bloodhound and was supervising the whole smash. The beret wearers should have been in green denims, except for the Senior / Chief Tech who would have been wearing the old beige dust coat.

Kitbag 4th Dec 2015 15:06


The beret wearers should have been in green denims
I thought green denims were 1990's (supposedly the army had misplaced a few zeros on an order), the rest of the time they were blue/grey with rubber buttons giving way to velcro in the '70's.

MAINJAFAD 4th Dec 2015 15:11

The RAF tradesman in the early 1960's wore green denims

http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib...7611/large.jpg

The green ones returned in the mid 1980s, just around the time I started working on the mighty mutt.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7163/6...4bc643ff_b.jpg

Airfix have done a WWII RAF bomber support set. May be worth doing a V-Force one as well.


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