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chopper2004 22nd Jul 2015 18:37

Kawasaki P-1 demo flight @RIAT
 
Thanks to the temporary car park within the picturesque village of Whelford, and beyond on the Saturday:( missed the P-1 display albeit saw it through the trees as queuing to get into Red Car Park.

But next day got there mega early and here are my photos of the P-1,

Any thoughts for next MPA:mad: ?

cheers

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pspjtpdd2b.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pst7dx7oor.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pse4sllzpf.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psnjxmgta3.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psviwkhfxk.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psumdfuut7.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psbbdqiwi2.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psrcj4lkqs.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psvdml4cak.jpg


Cheers

charliegolf 22nd Jul 2015 18:52

What noodle put the AAR probe on the back?

CG

Fox3WheresMyBanana 22nd Jul 2015 19:04

They must be MAD ;)

switch_on_lofty 22nd Jul 2015 19:12

Yup, looks boring enough to be an MPA.
And enough like a Nimrod to please a lot on here with that double chine hull.
Surely 4 engines is two too many these days though.

Tiger_mate 22nd Jul 2015 19:50

I confess to not checking official data; but in the static park it appeared to be noticeably smaller than Poseidon (Boeing 737) which came as a surprise.

It is however purpose built as opposed to a bodged airliner; and appeared to have all the toys to be an effective MPA that can attack as well as discover. Best asset was just how quiet it was, and former kipper fleet work mates have explained why jets are superior to turboprops when sub hunting so it gets my vote. If I was operating on some of the less well known sorties that Nimrod did in its day; I would want four engines.

melmothtw 22nd Jul 2015 19:56

The P-8 is no more of a bodged airliner than the P-3 is or the Nimrod was. Arguably the two most successful MPAs ever.

Out Of Trim 22nd Jul 2015 20:05

I.m sure I'd prefer 4 engines doing SAR oversight at 30W, on a dark stormy November night! :sad:

O-P 22nd Jul 2015 20:10

Anyone given the P-1 a name yet? I can think of a couple!


Nice pics btw.

NWSRG 22nd Jul 2015 21:05


I confess to not checking official data; but in the static park it appeared to be noticeably smaller than Poseidon (Boeing 737) which came as a surprise.
Check out the picture of the two, nose to nose, in this Wikipedia article...P1 looks big enough :ok:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_P-8_Poseidon

Willard Whyte 22nd Jul 2015 21:17


Anyone given the P-1 a name yet? I can think of a couple!
Um, Nimlod?

'Real' possibilities might include Suijin: God of water, or Kane (a foreshortening of Omoikane): God of intelligence & wisdom, then there's Tengu: wise bird. Not too many others trip of the Western tongue as well as they do in Japanese.

'Tsunami' fits well - and globally understood, but perhaps somewhat lacking in tact.

Tiger_mate 22nd Jul 2015 21:31

According to various Defence Media; the P-1 made a demo flight to potential customers last Friday, but the 'customers' remain anonymous. It is also only two years in squadron service and due operational declaration in September, although missions have been flown since March of this year. The engines are Japanese manafactured and unique to type. It would be good to see it give Poseidon a run for its money as a contender to an MoD contract. With Europes aging P3 and Atlantic fleet, the Japanese would welcome a Euro launch customer. Lets hope that QinetiQ and RR do not influence any potential developments. I doubt the US aviation industry sit on a pedestal with the UK procurement agencies given the dramas of DAVE. (f35)

Shack37 22nd Jul 2015 21:44

UK Maritime Patrol Aircraft - An Urgent Requirement

Wouldn´t this be more appropriate to this thread

Courtney Mil 22nd Jul 2015 21:53

Chopper,

Nice pics, thank you.

thunderbird7 22nd Jul 2015 22:34

Great pics but... I hate to say, reminds me of the over-engined 146...

Banzai!!

glad rag 22nd Jul 2015 23:05

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IHI_Corporation_F7

specific metallurgy for over sea operations...

cargokings 22nd Jul 2015 23:50

Cargo
 
Can they reconfig to include a rear door? For loading long's

We looked closely at the BAE 146's Cargo, but running 3 hr's each way, with the amount of payload made it hard to cover costs

CISTRS 23rd Jul 2015 03:08

Look at the size of the cockpit windows in the Kawasaki!
Must be great visibility.

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/...psijenfltl.gif

dagenham 23rd Jul 2015 05:42

i heard a rumor the project is called " Mount Niitaka" rivals "case white" for political correctness

Just This Once... 23rd Jul 2015 06:47

I'd call it the P-1 Tiger, perhaps 3 times over, just to add to Boeing's surprise.

:ok:

malcrf 23rd Jul 2015 07:13

I'd like 20 please!

Flarkey 23rd Jul 2015 08:27


Quote:
Anyone given the P-1 a name yet? I can think of a couple!

Um, Nimlod?


:D Bravo!!! :ok::ok: Just covered my keyboard in snot.

O-P 23rd Jul 2015 13:28

Actually, I was thinking of either Niptune or Niprod!

teeteringhead 23rd Jul 2015 13:41


It is also only two years in squadron service and due operational declaration in September,
A brief conversation from many years ago ........

Aged Aviator: Never fly the Mk 1!!

Young Teeters: The Mk 1 what?

AA: The Mk1 anything!!

YT: :eek:

CoffmanStarter 23rd Jul 2015 13:57

OK ... If we were to buy/lease the P1 ... How many would we realistically need ?

There has been one (tongue-in-cheek) bid for twenty ... a bit unlikely I would have thought ... so what might be a realistic fleet size ?

Where would we base them now ... RAF St Mawgan and rescue Kinloss from the Army Engineers ?

Presumably there would be a need for rotating deployments to the Falklands and possibly Gibraltar to assist with the Med 'People Trafficking' problem.

Flarkey 23rd Jul 2015 13:57


Actually, I was thinking of either Niptune or Niprod!
Or even an Olion? Or Alorla?



/racist mode off.

Yamagata ken 23rd Jul 2015 14:02

Is it fit for purpose, or simply a source of sniggers at the tinted people? The UK equivalent: Zero.

charliegolf 23rd Jul 2015 15:00


A brief conversation from many years ago ........

Aged Aviator: Never fly the Mk 1!!

Young Teeters: The Mk 1 what?

AA: The Mk1 anything!!

YT:
Did you not fly the 40 year old Mk1 Puma JTO?

Hawk98 23rd Jul 2015 20:16

RAF St Mawgan's airfield site has been sold off to the county council but having said that, given the low volume of civilian flights I don't think there's anything to say that the RAF couldn't share it? (Given they often drop in now) The old Nimrod hangers are being used privately now for the Classic Air Force and other private things I believe, but I think there would be plenty of space to build new ones inside the wire next to the HAS site

NutLoose 23rd Jul 2015 20:31

Classic Airforce have more or less shuffled back up to Coventry post the cheap rent ending..

As we called one of our maritime aircraft Shackleton after the well known explorer, perhaps we could adopt a Japanese Antartica explorers name to call it,

One drops to mind

Nobu mk1 sounds cool :E

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japa...tic_Expedition

CoffmanStarter 23rd Jul 2015 21:40

Nice one Nutty ...

[StarWarsModeOn]

But Nobu was also a group of four Cargo ferries belonging to the Rebel Alliance in the Airam sector during the operations of Task Force Vengeance ...

[/StarWarsModeOff] :}

Hawk98 23rd Jul 2015 22:24

Thanks for that Nutloose, I hadn't realised - in fact I'm down in Cornwall on holiday at the moment and saw their VC10 today from the road, sorry for the thread drift but I don't suppose anyone knows what will happen to that as it's a tad big to move by road, let alone Cornish ones!

ORAC 24th Jul 2015 05:39

Well, if we're calling the F35 Dave, we could always call the P1 Babs, what with the carrier already being Betty...... :p

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worl...anese_aircraft

NutLoose 24th Jul 2015 11:11

Hawk,

Several aircraft to big to move remain, the VC10, The BAC 1-11 and I think the Varsity, along with the resident Shack they are working on a nucleus of a new museum.

http://www.cornishguardian.co.uk/Sho...ail/story.html

For more read

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...ewquay-Closure

TBM-Legend 24th Jul 2015 12:26

Give any new MPA to the RN...basing problem solved...

Heathrow Harry 24th Jul 2015 15:12

They could call it the "Singapore"..............

dagenham 24th Jul 2015 15:14

Well I'll climb mount Niitaka

Tora Tora Tora chuck

glad rag 24th Jul 2015 16:02


Originally Posted by CoffmanStarter (Post 9056381)
Nice one Nutty ...

[StarWarsModeOn]

But Nobu was also a group of four Cargo ferries belonging to the Rebel Alliance in the Airam sector during the operations of Task Force Vengeance ...

[/StarWarsModeOff] :}

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RmlYogxl_UM/Sl...ascinating.gif

Wander00 24th Jul 2015 16:05

The "Name the Japanese MPA" thread is almost funnier than the Caption competition. Needed to rush for a quick wee after "Nimlod" though

stilton 25th Jul 2015 09:19

Good looking aircraft albeit a bit stubby.


Wonder if they shutdown the outer engines on patrol ?

teeteringhead 25th Jul 2015 12:55


Did you not fly the 40 year old Mk1 Puma JTO?
Not very much - old Wessex hand like myself never liked the 2nd Class post between collective and engines! :eek:

First pilot, day only (just) is my Puma qualification..........

But rather more hours on the Squirrel - also a Mk 1 of course.


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