BBMF Lanc Engine Fire
 

Have just seen that the Lanc had a no4 engine fire but landed safely, hope it's not too bad.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...978BB405_1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...52F6BB0E1A.jpg

Perhaps the Canadians would lend them one!!!!!!

O-D

Isn't turning towards the dead engine a piloting no no?

VX
You never know he might be aiming for the runway. :ooh:

There was a picture on the Flypast forum

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...rgency-Landing

Glad everyone appears ok and well done all in what could have been a nasty accident.

Looked great displaying over Scampton earlier, hope everything is OK.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ve-day-raf-bombers-engine-5654830 - Google Search

Picture

VX275, no hard and fast rules, it depends on how she is handling.

Usually, it's not an issue once well above Vmca2 where you have plenty of bernoullis over the ailerons;just make sure you don't bank too far!

Just bring No1 to idle to match No4 then there are no issues :ok:

Glad all ok.

I have to say though....awesome picture, I suspect it's a good few years since a Lanc has flown over Lincs with one donk smoking and prop feathered?

I hope it's easily fixable but yes. Something strangely evocative in the pictures.

(To a ground based layman with zero perception of what was going on in the cockpit. )

A lot of suggestions she won't fly again this season...:{

From UKAR

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEaulCbWoAEoYUG.jpg:orig

Well done the crew. Surely it will buff out..........hat, coat

Does anybody else know if PA474 has ever had a similar incident whilst flying with BBMF?
No doubt the team will be working hard to ensure the beautiful old girl returns to the skies in good order.

IIRC Jack Currie did a 2 engined over shoot (port both dead, I think), with a load of incendaries onboard in a rain storm, @ West Malling. I believe he then landed off a port turn , having lost faith in the 'turning away' from the dead engine principle. I haven't read Lancaster Target for a while, so apologies if I am not correct.

She was to have a busy few days too. At least she is at her home base this time. I believe she spent a couple of weeks in Jersey when a Merlin failed several years ago.
mmitch.

http://youtu.be/PEDQX5_moLE

Taken when all four donks were working perfectly!

Judging by this sequence she had just took off so was probably in the circuit, images show the result.

BBMF incident this afternoon.


http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/news...noon-1-6732212

I hope that whatever the firem....firefighters were using wasn't corrosive...:uhoh:

Well done to all and best wishes to the BBMF!:ok:
I am not aware if the BBMF Lanc has any engine fire protection? Bearing in mind the overall value of this aircraft, it should be fitted. It would appear that this was a fuel fed fire and that the fire was still burning after landing.:oh:

OAP

AFAIK PA474 had an engine fire previously and diverted into Finningley whilst I was stationed there.

Yesterday, I went over to RAF Scampton with a Spitfire PRU pilot & other Veterans to be wined, dined & generally spoilt by the boys & girls in blue.


We were treated to a formation flying display by the "Reds" & some low, banking passes by the BBMF Lancaster. It then touched down halfway down the runway then opened up power to head back down the A15 towards RAF Coningsby. It sounded & looked fine during the display, although the display had been delayed on four separate occasions.

Beagle,

Yes the content of fire extinguishers are corrosive, however if you look at the picture on the Boston link, see

BBMF Lancaster Bomber catches fire at RAF Coningsby - Boston Standard

I would say that is them steam cleaning / jet washing the engine and airframe down to remove it.

The huge picture above shows paint gone from the rear of the cowls which tends to indicate the possible area of the fire. I can imagine it being out for a while, as the engine bearers are tubular steel and any heat on them could see those done for, and that does not touch On what else has been damaged.

OH SHI# I knew about the engine etc but that undercarriage looks screwed. :{

Looks like it was an effect of the angle of the screen the picture was taken from after all.

Hopefully repairs can be effected in good order and she can fly again.

Where?........

From the on screen images from the camera shots previous page..

Looked fine in these.




BBMF incident this afternoon.


V1

As long as the heat has not affected the mainspar's integrity........

I suspect there will be a great deal of gum sucking amongst the 'duty holder's' staff and anybody else with responsibility for airworthiness.

We could see the old girl out of action for sometime.

Here's an off the cuff proposition. The RAF works with The Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage to bring forward 'Just Jane' to flying status!

Thoughts on a postcard, please.

Old Duffer

Gents,


I'm the photographer who took the images that are on UKAR and are linked here. I thought I would just clarify exactly at what point the fire occurred. The BBMF had already completed one practise display (I believe their PDA was due today) and this happened late in the second when they had swapped Hurricanes. The smoke was first seen as it carried out a run across from the 07 end (where I was standing) towards 25 and was immediately spotted by the tower, the crew then confirmed they had a engine fire. I think from memory one tight 360 circuit was completed before they then landed on 25 and stopped as soon as possible at that end. Fire wagons were there in seconds. After about 30-40 minutes the aircraft was towed back down to the BBMF end, past the hangar to the wash pan for cleaning. The image that appears in the press was taken after I left but looks like the foam residue being cleaned off whilst on the wash pan. I suppose they think it's the fire itself. I only overheard one comment from the BBMF engineers at the fence and that was just ' it doesn't look good'.


Gary

Well hopefully the damage isn't very bad


V1

Does anyone here really think this isn't months of work? Maybe in 1942 this would have been an engine change and back up for tomorrow night's raid. Not today, I'm afraid. The damage assessment alone is going to be a long job.

There are so many parts at risk there, parts that no longer sit on shelves. I pray they can be sourced/manufactured in reasonably short order, but what I'm saying here is don't hold your breath.

She'll be back.

Well done that crew!

Courtney

You're right that there will be much to remanufacture - engine bearers, wire looms, control rods, mounts, etc... However, from what I could see the fire did not appear to go into the wing and damage the all important wing spar. I recall that LF363 was almost completely burned at RAF Wittering in 1991 and she was lovingly rebuilt, so I am very confident that PA474 will fly again.

By the way, I saw the old girl in the flesh shortly after the fire and she is definitely still standing proud on both legs - as others have said, well done to the crew and the fire crew for saving her. :D

LJ

Wrong Lanc, that was the Canadian one, this is the RAF one.

Judging by this on the Flypast forum, the bearers had a lot of heat on it so is probably shot, the wiring and pipe work hasn't faired well either, I'd say it's season is done.
The firewall appears to have stopped most of it travelling back.
http://forum.keypublishing.com/attac...8&d=1431126793

Wasn't it due for an extended down time period at the end of this season for some major work on the tail plane ..... ??

Their Facebook page. From the CO.
https://www.facebook.com/BBMF.Official?fref=nf


It was supposed to go to ARCO at Duxford at the end of the 2016 session.
mmitch.