Tornado picture - wingtip a foot off the runway
I have seen this fir the first time today and am curious about it. Does anyone have any gen?
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Italian I think. Looks like it anyway.
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Nah, metric, at least a metre.
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I have this gen...
...the photo you have posted is WAY TOO BIG four our pages. Therefore we cannot see your picture and our text is all buggered up and so small that we cannot read it. Please reduce the picture size MASSIVELY, then we can carry one. := |
Italian I think. Looks like it anyway. :p |
Can't be Italian: no hairs under wing roots.
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The thing with low flying is that the best you can ever hope for is to equal the record.
An old and somewhat sensible QFI told me that one when I was in my youth and up for anything. |
Shark mouth markings suggest it is a Tornado ECR of 50 Stormo, 155 Gruppo, Aeronautica Militare.
The Italians are the only operator to have the inverted ice cream cone on the spine :p |
I have this gen... ...the photo you have posted is WAY TOO BIG four our pages. Therefore we cannot see your picture and our text is all buggered up and so small that we cannot read it. Please reduce the picture size MASSIVELY, then we can carry one. So it's genuine then. Looks bloody dangerous to me. WWW |
Photoshopped
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I just wish the original suggestion was that the wingtip was disturbing the dirt - far more dramatic.
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Come on, a Tonka isn't very big - that's not much more than a foot or maybe two.
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Tornado picture - wingtip a foot off the runway
I don't care if it's a foot or a metre (my guess is about 4-5 feet personally) but whoever it is is a total pillock in my opinion.
I was taught how to fly at 100' in the Jaguar and I've never felt the urge to fly any lower (unless planning to land before anyone gets smart!). I realise that makes me sound like a pompous old prat but life's too short to bugger around like that, especially in a two seat jet. Finally, why does someone always say 'photoshop' on threads like this. Sadly I see nothing to suggest it is a fake. BV |
No, that's 6-8 feet off the runway.
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Photoshop - trust me Bob
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Jinda - you lie like cheap Changi watch!
You no lie anymore... |
That wing has got to be about 15ft long. I would say there is less than 20% of the wing length distance between the runway and the tip. I know it's very difficult to judge these things when telephoto lenses are used etc. But still.
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When I first saw it, I thought it was this (watch around the 3 minute mark):
In this one the pilot doesn't roll as much bank on as the Italian jet, but still quite an impressive fly past! |
Never mind the distance - think of it in time, inertia and speed. That f*ckwit was a mere millisecond away from being an ex-f*ckwit.
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Despite jindabyne's protestations, and as per Leon's youtube clip, it is indeed a genuine photo. It's a jet belonging to the RSV (Reparto Sperimentale Volo), Italy's version of the RAF's 41(R) TES...
-RP |
Better be lucky than good...:cool:
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I rather think that a fast low level turn was the root cause of the loss of an RAF Tornado in the Middle East.
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One recalls many years ago at an open day display practice at (IIRC) Chiv, one of the Ginos from the Frecce dug a wingtip into the (fortunately soft and muddy) grass.
By the evening celebrations, the Chiv groundcrew had recovered the nav light from the divot :eek::eek:, had it mounted on a polished wooden plaque, and presented it to the Italians ....... ....... who were allowed to display the next day. And of course that was years before Ramstein...... :( But that was then ................ |
That Bondu cat from the Falklanda didn't look too arsed at the low-flying antics....
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jindabyne, perhaps you'd justify your post; the thermal distortion in the jet efflux and the wingtip vortices match perfectly. If it's photoshopped, someone's gone to immense effort.
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I'd echo that - if someone is going to post "Photoshop", at least present some of the reasoning or evidence that this is the case please, otherwise it just comes over as a cheap shot.
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Thank you, ShotOne & P6.
You got in before me. |
......otherwise it just comes over as a cheap shot.
Pun presumably intended.:ok: |
I've seen Meteors overshooting on one engine go lower and tighter than that.
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The youtube video was filmed in Cameri, where the Italian Air Force maintains its Tornadoes (and where the F-35 FACO has been built).
Il portale dell'Aeronautica Militare - 1° Reparto Manutenzione Velivoli I have no clue about this specific case, but, given the setting, there is a possibility that the aircraft was being flown by a test pilot from the manufacturer Alenia. |
It looks like one hell of a way to kill a rabbit...
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Never mind the distance - think of it in time, inertia and speed. That f*ckwit was a mere millisecond away from being an ex-f*ckwit. |
Originally Posted by Bob Viking
(Post 8938315)
I was taught how to fly at 100' in the Jaguar and I've never felt the urge to fly any lower (unless planning to land before anyone gets smart!).
BV (More in IM) |
For me , the salutary warning was that photographic sequence of the Argosy in the Middle East doing a "beat up " and hitting that water tower around 1969. It never left my mind. Later the Herc decapitating a soldier reinforced the point.
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And he still didn't manage to pick up the handkerchief ! :(
(But what a wonderful pic (fake ?) for Capcom) D. |
Memories of the dramatic [and fatal] Lightning vertical departure from Tengah, for a home movie, which didn't work out. Happily, I wasn't in Local that day.
ISTR, from conversations after the event, that one should pull 2.4g instead of 4g. Movie camera and FJ pilots make a bad mix, IMO (Edit = I am advised by PM that there was more to the event than I was aware of, and that the pilot was not entirely to blame) |
And he still didn't manage to pick up the handkerchief ! (Actually allegedly he did cheat by using a wire hook -but it looked like he was picking it up with the wingtip- as if a few inches made much difference.) |
Originally Posted by Haraka
.....as if a few inches made much difference.
More idiocy than skill in that video clip. He was lucky. One day, he wont be. |
This picture's been posted and deliberated before on PPRuNe. Someone had gone to great detail and analysed the spectra of the shot and concluded that it was "photoshopped" per Jindabyne's assertion.
I'm not a photo guru but the evidence presented then seemed compelling enough to say it was a false image. This is all recollection so not entirely backed up. |
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