What have they done for us lately?
For folks to try and dine out on something from about the seventh century doesn't impress me.
Likewise with the Greeks.

I stand corrected on the numbering and astronomy - fair call.
Lonewolf - you're entitled to your view - but seems like a bit of a sad one to me.
Bit like saying Texas is just Bubbas with pickup trucks and gun racks on the back... and all it's done is given us Bush 43 who made the whole problem worse...

Compared to what, sticking your head in the sand taking it up the @rse whilst trying whistle dixie.

The good think about Obama is he makes George look good.