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kenparry 28th Jan 2021 09:32

Well, according to the London "Times" today, the KC-46 program involves "converting old 747 airliners into refuelling tankers".

Perhaps that's where it all started to go wrong....................

tdracer 29th Jan 2021 00:25

ORAC, to be fair, most of that new charge is being blamed on COVID related delays and disruptions in the production system.
If true (and I can certainly understand some skepticism), that can hardly be blamed on Boeing. Just more of the worldwide suffering due to Covid.

cavuman1 2nd Feb 2021 14:39

Further information from The Air Force Magazine/Daily Report:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....779500737c.jpg
Army and Air National Guardsmen from the Oklahoma National Guard disembark a 157th Air Refueling Wing KC-46A Pegasus from Pease Air National Guard Base, N.H., after returning from the District of Columbia to Oklahoma City, Okla., on Jan. 23, 2021. ANG photo by Senior Master Sgt. Andrew M. LaMoreaux.

USAF, Boeing Make Progress on KC-46 Fixes

By Brian W. Everstine

The Air Force recently resolved two Category 1 deficiencies on the troubled KC-46 tanker, both problems with the aircraft’s auxiliary power unit that could impact the safety of flight. However, the four remaining issues are still years away from being solved. The KC-46’s APU, located in its tail, developed two serious problems, one with a duct clamp that was moving excessively and another with a drain mast on the outside of the tail that could potentially break loose. As of the end of January, both problems have been addressed, with one closed and the other downgraded to a Category 2, or less serious, deficiency, AMC boss Gen. Jacqueline D. Van Ovost told reporters Feb. 1.

- Ed

BEagle 2nd Feb 2021 15:11


Army and Air National Guardsmen from the Oklahoma National Guard disembark a 157th Air Refueling Wing KC-46A Pegasus from Pease Air National Guard Base, N.H., after returning from the District of Columbia to Oklahoma City, Okla., on Jan. 23, 2021.
Having enjoyed the luxury of 'Rendition Class' travel in the Pegasaurus.....

Travelling in the Voyager is vastly more civilised!

charliegolf 2nd Feb 2021 15:40


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 10981833)
Having enjoyed the luxury of 'Rendition Class' travel in the Pegasaurus.....

Travelling in the Voyager is vastly more civilised!

A third class ride always beats a first class walk!

CG

BEagle 2nd Feb 2021 16:16

Well, it'd be a 1340 mile walk, so I guess a couple of hours in a windowless Pegasaurus would indeed be preferable, particularly at this time of year!

Although they could pick up old Route 66 from St Louis to Oklahoma City, I guess. Which would be nice.

Asturias56 3rd Feb 2021 07:55

"Having enjoyed the luxury of 'Rendition Class' travel in the Pegasaurus....."

H​​​​​hey getting out of Oklahoma at someone else's expense is GOOD no matter what way you travel....................

airsound 9th Feb 2021 15:20

News from Boeing's 'mediaroom'

EVERETT, Wash., Feb. 9, 2021 – The first Boeing [NYSE: BA] KC-46 tanker destined for the Japan Air Self-Defense Force (JASDF) took to the skies on its maiden flight yesterday. This successful flight highlights an important milestone as the aircraft now transitions into the certification phase of development.

“This is an exciting milestone for the JASDF and Boeing,” said Jamie Burgess, KC-46 program manager. “Japan is getting closer to receiving the most advanced air refueling tanker in the world.”

Japan is the KC-46 program’s first international customer and is scheduled to receive its first jet this year.
airsound

chopper2004 10th Feb 2021 00:04

JASDF Kc-46 flies
 
JASDF KC-46 makes its first flight

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-re...ts?item=130825

airsound 23rd Feb 2021 14:00

Oh no! Not another problem for the much troubled Pagasus? It's powered by P&W 4062 engines, part of the same 4000 series as the Denver UAL 777 (P&W4077) and the Belgium Longtail Aviation 747 (P&W4056), both of which recently rained parts on the ground below.

Boeing recommended grounding the P&W 777s, but there's been no mention, as far as I can see, of grounding the P&W 747 or the KC-46.

airsound

Less Hair 23rd Feb 2021 14:09

Israel has ordered two.

esscee 23rd Feb 2021 14:19

The P & W 4060 series engine is different to the engine fitted to United B777, as it does not have the hollow wide chord blades that are fitted to the larger engine installed on B777. Still a very old design though.

Asturias56 23rd Feb 2021 16:40


Originally Posted by Less Hair (Post 10996257)
Israel has ordered two.


But they get mates rates...................

tdracer 23rd Feb 2021 22:37


Originally Posted by airsound (Post 10996252)
Oh no! Not another problem for the much troubled Pagasus? It's powered by P&W 4062 engines, part of the same 4000 series as the Denver UAL 777 (P&W4077) and the Belgium Longtail Aviation 747 (P&W4056), both of which recently rained parts on the ground below.

Boeing recommended grounding the P&W 777s, but there's been no mention, as far as I can see, of grounding the P&W 747 or the KC-46.

airsound

As esscee notes, you're talking apples and cumquats. The PW4000/94" engine as installed on the 767 and 747-400 has well over 150 million flight hours and has been in-service for over 3 decades. You're going to have the odd failure when you have an engine that has been in-service for those sort of hours. We also don't know what sort of maintenance Longtail was subjecting their engines to - some freight operators are pretty stingy in their maintenance practices.
While there is considerable commonality between the high pressure portions of the various PW4000 models, the low pressure sections are completely different between the 94", 100" (A330), and 112" (777) variants. There is simply no connection between the fan blade failures on the PW4000/112", and the PW4062/94" engine installed on the KC-46, aside from their being designed and built by the same company.

airsound 24th Feb 2021 08:50

Thanks tdracer - I'm OK on apples, but I'll obviously have to brush up on my cumquat recognition.

airsound

BEagle 24th Feb 2021 09:01

BOEING = Bits Of Engines In Neighbours' Gardens!!

chopper2004 24th Feb 2021 15:19

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...dsVINrZjKdLKzU

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....42ebd9f88.jpeg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e2af8209b.jpeg

airsound 25th Feb 2021 16:03

Defense News has more news, and is quoting Gen. Ryan Samuelson, who leads the Air Force’s KC-46 cross-functional team, and Air Mobility Command chief Gen. Jacqueline Van Ovost

The Air Force currently has 44 KC-46s of the 179 it plans to buy over the program of record. By the end of 2021, that number will be up to 60 tankers, Samuelson said.

However, there are a number of missions that the KC-46 will not be permitted to perform until its critical deficiencies are resolved and the Air Force deems it fully operational, Van Ovost said. Namely, it will not be allowed to perform wartime missions in the Middle East for U.S. Central Command, nor will it be tasked for missions in U.S. European Command or U.S. Indo-Pacific Command.
It will also be restricted from refueling stealth planes such as the F-35, F-22 and B-2, which all feature a low-observable coating that protects them from radar detection, Samuelson said. Air Force officials believe the KC-46 is at higher risk of damaging stealth coatings with its refueling boom because of longstanding issues with the Remote Vision System, a collection of cameras and infrared sensors used by operators to steer the tanker’s boom into a fuel receptacle.
https://www.defensenews.com/smr/air-...erations-soon/

airsound

sandiego89 12th Apr 2021 16:18

Missed that update. Good to see they are finally passing gas (but not to stealthy airframes and A-10's). Anyone know if they are actually being used much for air to air refueling?

ORAC 16th Apr 2021 20:17

Shit Happens..
 
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2021...etized-toilet/

The KC-46 has a messy problem with its palletized toilet


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