Suspected Terror attack in Canada
 

In view of the coming deployment of Canadian Aircraft in the IS battle.

Two soldiers struck in Quebec hit-and-run - The Globe and Mail

Considering hes only recently converted to Islam and taken to wearing 'baggy clothing' it sounds more nutjob related than terror related tbh.

Whatever the reason what we have 1 injured and 1 severely injured soldier.
Whether he is a "nut bar" or not or has been a terrorist for 10 seconds or 10 years is IMHO is not relevant.

It does appear to be the 'go-to' religion for those of a bat-s*it crazy disposition.

Oh really?

Westboro Baptist Church - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh come on Stacker, Westboro is soo 2013. Besides I'm not sure all of it's 39 members would last long against a few thousand dudes with machine guns.

Westboro chap and child:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...BC_protest.jpg

Well, if those boys were really Christians, they'd already know that, as befits His status, He only smokes cigars :E

I see that they have a custom of picketing the funerals of those who offend them. I'd like to see them try that at a London East End crim's farewell.

Are members of the westboro church deliberately running over soldiers? As vile as their message is, it's foolish to draw parallels between a church full of largely non violent nutters and attempted murder by an individual.

I note the knee jerk response to "but Christians too" anytime someone criticizes a Muslim.

Pathetic.

Here's a Pro Tip for Basil: Fred Phelps is dead, and I daresay his church isn't doing so well. And no, they don't go around killing people, they go around saying rude things. There is a difference.

Sad to say no longer attempted murder, the critically injured solider died.

I guess to some here when a Muslim beheaded a woman in Moore, Oklahoma while shouting Islamic phrases, that was just workplace violence.

Since I live in the town where six CF18s departed for sunnier climes today, this is something that has concerned me for a while. The Canadians, bless their cottons, have little experience of dealing with domestic terrorism. We had the IRA (mostly before my military time) and then the Lee Rigby incident to sharpen our senses. I stopped wearing uniform in public a few weeks ago unlike most other personnel here.

Despite our best efforts to always appear PC and not come across as racist I'm afraid this latest bunch of nutbags (I mean IS/ISIS/ISIL) are making it harder every day. I try my hardest to treat everyone the same and not view people with suspicion based on thier appearance but that is getting harder by the day.

It is not the politically acceptable thing to say but any Muslim is going to be increasingly viewed with suspicion by people in Western countries. Both the Islamic communities in these nations and governments need to wake up and address the problem before hate crimes start happening.

Just my opinion of course but I have a family to look after so sorry if I appear to be xenophobic!

BV:eek:

BV
Don't go down the racist or xenophobic route as not only is that not appropriate but it may be putting you at a disadvantage !

This new thing is truly asymmetric but in location as well as force strength.
Back here in Blighty we could say we are taking part in a massively asymmetric civil war (just calling it something for the sake of giving it a name).
If we as a society could be attacked by members of our own community whom are living amongst us then concentrating on strangers from another race wouldn't be much help :)

Almost everyone in our two countries fall into two groups: those who support our countries and those who don't as they may be consciencous objectors or don't support foreign policy. As we live in democracies both the above groups should be supported. There are a small number in a third group though and those are the people who would activity work against us. I have no time for these people (whatever country they live in/work against) but am thankful that they only represent a tiny minority of our populations.
Keep safe and simply be neutral to people you meet :)

Bob, you don't come across as xenophobic at all. 'Sensible' is more the word, and I can understand you wanting to protect your family. That is natural. :)

I really hope that military personnel and their families don't have to go back to checking under the car before opening the door and switching the engine on, every morning.

Canada does not have Alert States, and I really hope we don't have to start having them. I think we will probably put this one down to a wacko, albeit a religious-of-sorts wacko. Fingers crossed there are no more.

I think we need to find a new planet - and when we do rule #1 needs to be :mad:

I also hope there are no more, but I think you're overlooking the threat by writing it off as a nutter. This, the plot in Australia to behead someone in public, the killing in Oklahoma, the unfortunate lad in London are the ones that come to immediate memory, there's plenty more. The lone wolf or very small group action seems to be the path forward for DIY jihadis.

According to News sources the attacker had been deprived of his passport by Canadian Authorities having attempted travel to Turkey and having been suspected of terrorist links. It seems he wasnt JUST a whacko.
So the question is....what do we need to do with these people? Apparently having stopped him travelling they had insufficient evidence to charge him with anything so he was free to act out his own little fatwah at home instead.
Perhaps we ought to let them travel out but ensure they never get back in.

[quote][Since I live in the town where six CF18s departed for sunnier climes today, this is something that has concerned me for a while. The Canadians, bless their cottons, have little experience of dealing with domestic terrorism. We had the IRA (mostly before my military time) and then the Lee Rigby incident to sharpen our senses. I stopped wearing uniform in public a few weeks ago unlike most other personnel here.

Despite our best efforts to always appear PC and not come across as racist I'm afraid this latest bunch of nutbags (I mean IS/ISIS/ISIL) are making it harder every day. I try my hardest to treat everyone the same and not view people with suspicion based on thier appearance but that is getting harder by the day.

It is not the politically acceptable thing to say but any Muslim is going to be increasingly viewed with suspicion by people in Western countries. Both the Islamic communities in these nations and governments need to wake up and address the problem before hate crimes start happening.

Just my opinion of course but I have a family to look after so sorry if I appear to be xenophobic!

BV/quote]

Absolutely Bob. I've been saying this for years and have sustained accusations of racism from the PC Brigade, but it's simply the truth - and is beginning to out.

In this specific case the attacker wasn't Asian and you may not have benefited from the defence of treating all Asians with suspicion.
However recent photos show him sporting a full beard so perhaps we need to view all bearded men with suspicion.
ISIL or whatever they are presently called will be very pleased to know that we are getting to a stage where all Asians/ Muslims are viewed with suspicion. It means they are one step further on the path of seperatism and using their 'victim' ploy they can then appeal to all Muslims to see that they are under threat and to join ISILs ranks either directly or through tacit support.
Its a sick world and its going to get much worse before it gets better.

FantomZorbin - read post #10.