If there's really a valid reason for barring kids, why should "Dining" (or not) change anything?

How would we feel about "No Servicemen Admitted"?

Well, you'd be lucky these days to see any RAF youngsters from RAF High Wycombe, apart from the occasional holding officer. Remember, there is a Multi-Activity Contract on site, so that sucks up almost all of the airmen and airwomen's jobs. I don't know how many airmen are still at Air Command (Strike Command in old money) these days; I doubt, very much doubt, that it reaches 3 figures.

The screaming child running around the pub isn't the problem, it is the piss poor parent letting it happen

I would guess that they wish to exclude 'lads' who are out to get ratarsed asap.

Ah, didn't mean to impugn the RAF at all. I was referring to town ;)

That IS the problem Nutloose! Parents these days seem to have little interest in controlling their kids and expect the rest of us to accept their behaviour!

The old saying that " children should be seen but not heard" said it all!

Maybe there is a case for family pubs and adult only boozers?:ok:

Ah.. New Labour social engineering. By now, weren't we all supposed to be embracing European cosmopolitan cafe cultured enlightenment, reading the Guardian, engaging in thoughtful and witty repartee, sipping latte until the small hours, picking at Spaghetti ("enjoy!"), commenting incisively on the latest exhibition at the latest people's art gallery and smiling self indulgently at our little mites reading up on their human rights? Dear god, how I long for a proper smoke filled pub.

And I have never smoked.

They are fine if you are starting them on real ales, but not that euro pi$$.

I have nothing against children being allowed in pubs, so long as they aren't running around, being loud and obnoxious and annoying everybody else who is trying to have a quiet drink. However, I don't particularly agree with children being allowed at the bar. I also believe that children should be out of the pub at a certain time, because the 'bigger children' can't handle their drink and the little children don't need to see the aftermath of that.

Approx ten years ago, India Knight, Sunday Times columnist, ranted about pubs and restaurants refusing to allow young children in certain pubs and bars for meals etc. She invited readers to write in so she could produce a blacklist to name and shame the landlords.
What she didn't bargain for was the number of people who wrote in asking for a copy of said blacklist so they could go and have a civilised Sunday lunchtime in a village pub/restaurant.

Food yes, bars no.
 

Public bar is no place for a child at all. Strictly over 18's only. Sunday lunches, daytime dining yes I would be all for it in a respectable place and in a designated dining area. Bars are no places for children due to what they may witness or hear or be involved in, and what kind of parent or adult would want their child in such an environment anyway? UK bars are generally in a decline anyway, lets face it as the supermarkets have cleaned up in off sales, but many bars are still a place for high intake high -volume, vertical binge drinking, and therefore fighting, swearing, drunkenness, drug exchanging, stolen goods swopping, shootings and stabbings are generally to be expected and witnessed at some time or other. Least they are around my way in most of the rougher places - its no place for a child. Keep them out!!

We are the only country in Europe with this sort of archaic attitude, and hey presto we are the only country in Europe that has such poorly behaved youngsters around our city centres, pissed out their heads.

Well who took them out like Italian or French kids are, educating them on how to behave, eat and drink whilst in public. There is a time and a place when kids aren't really to be there, but I personally try and take my young boys into as many bars and pubs as I can.

"What polite and considerate boys you have" I proudly hear, yes and it's because I've spent time setting a good example to them, and much of it is in public bars etc.

Funny to see someone born in '93 commenting on kids in pubs.
Typhoon93, you make me feel sooo old!


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Perhaps posters here are allowing their Chiante/Raki/Sangria-filled holidays to cloud their memories of European kids. In Italy the parents dote on their offspring and discipline is generally absent - many is the time that I've seen kids running riot in restaurants, just as their Anglo-Saxon cousins do.

c2000, after the unfortunate confluence of a 39 Sqn aircrew lunch which ran on into a "Families Happy Hour," a sign was introduced at the bar door for following "lunches." "Caution - elderly aircrew drinking!" This helped avoid any more problems with aspirational young wives and their darling offspring.

Vernon

Not ejector seat but DANGER - DANGER - DANGER - MOBILITY SCOOTER.

Mind you ... far greater irritants can be found in pubs these days :E

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Farage pulls his thumb out. :eek:

BEagle,

Certainly on the flying station that I'm currently detached to. £2.10 for 3 pints of Yorkshires finest (half price), as I arrived at the bar at 17:00:01.

Seven of us in the bar total, of which 5 of us were visitors. Neither of the 2 residents being aircrew! Average age of the 7 of us must have been around 48 years old. I understand nowadays that the married guys go straight home post flying and the younger element retire to their Mess rooms to play death/murder/kill computer games, against each other on their I-thingies. :rolleyes:

Here in NZ the little burgers are everywhere and a complete nuisance. me I would ban them all. I would also love to find a child free holiday place so I can have my holiday in peace and quiet. Never had kids of my own so don't see why I should have to put up with others brats.

I saw the mythical notice about unattended children in real life the other day, and I laughed out loud. Funny thing - it seemed to work at that establishment.

Unattended children will be given a double espresso and a free puppy.