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CoffmanStarter 13th Sep 2014 11:50

Mil Old Timer Hardware Still Flying
 
Mr & Mrs Coff spent a glorious day at Goodwood Revival yesterday in West Sussex. In addition to the classic cars and motorcycles there was the usual display of airworthy vintage aircraft ... many of a Military pedigree.

For those members interested ... here are a few pics I took :ok:


http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps09df48bc.jpg

1957 Beech W18S : Utility twin that saw duty in WWII and used by the US Army until 1976.

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps25d1e67a.jpg

1952 Max Holste MH-1521 Broussard : Six-seat monoplane used by the French Mil until 1983. A bit like a de Havilland Beaver on steroids.

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5fa2cff5.jpg

1939 Gloster Gladiator Mk 2 : The last fighter biplane to see active service with the RAF.

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...psab3fa3da.jpg

1942 Stinson Gullwing V-77 : Gullwings were used by the US Army during WWII as a utility aircraft.

If I may ... I'll sneak in a couple of personal favourites.

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps88701e43.jpg

1947 Stampe SV4C : The C version was licence built in France and Algeria.

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1411b57c.jpg

1954 Beechcraft BE50 Twin Bonanza : Five-seat passenger executive aircraft.



I have a few other pics which I'll post if anyone is interested :ok:

For Ground-bound Petrol-heads ... here is a link to car and motorcycle pics. The Two Lanc flypast yesterday was brilliant.

Goodwood Revival | Official Site

Best ...

Coff.

ancientaviator62 13th Sep 2014 12:25

Coff,
thanks for posting those great pics. I normally go to the Revival but could not this year. The Broussard was regarded by some as a better a/c than the Beaver.

oxenos 13th Sep 2014 15:06

aa62
I think you can expect some incoming. There are those who believe that nothing is better than a Beaver.

54Phan 13th Sep 2014 15:39

Coff, beautiful pictures! Thank you very much.

West Coast 13th Sep 2014 16:24

Outstanding! Hope you have more pics to post.

ShotOne 13th Sep 2014 16:34

I thought this was going to be about the Rivet Joint!

Great pics, Coffman!

CoffmanStarter 13th Sep 2014 16:45

Thanks Chaps ... I'll post a few more tomorrow :ok:

Willard Whyte 13th Sep 2014 18:02

I take it you weren't one of the many wearing decidedly dodgy uniform?

One of the Lancs went tech overnight, but I'm given to understand they were due to fly past circa 18:00 today. Glad I saw it yesterday as it would've taken half the night to get home had I stayed to watch them today.

Seemed to be more flying aircraft than at Waddo's 'Air Fete'.

nimbev 13th Sep 2014 18:16

WW
Yes, they did 4 or 5 fly-bys around 1800 in formation with 3 Spitfires. Earlier in the day we had 2 Hurricanes, 3 Spitfires and an ME109 in formation, and after that a Spitfire and a Mustang playing together - oh yes, and a Canberra and 2 Hunters in formation. A great selection of aircraft for a car show!

CoffmanStarter 13th Sep 2014 18:16

You may be very certain of that WW :ok:

I'll admit to a slight chuckle when I saw a RAF Corporal (chevrons) Pilot (wings), wearing a Kings Crown Officers SD hat with one row of scrambled egg ... Priceless :}

In fact I've never seen so many Squadron Leaders, Wing Commanders and Group Captains in one go ... Oh and one Chap dressed as a Luftwaffe Field Marshal (plus FM's Baton) ... Who looked more like Catweasel than Goring.

CoffmanStarter 13th Sep 2014 18:22

WW ... Yep one of the Lancs did go U/S ... W/C J.H. ferried a replacement part down from Coningsby :ok:

Willard Whyte 13th Sep 2014 18:36

I stacked just after the Canberra/Hunter combo today - same as yesterday in fact. Not sure I can post my photos though (on a quality basis, not ability!)

dragartist 13th Sep 2014 18:41

Great pics Coff.
Speaking of Beaver. I did a bit of design work on the Beaver in the early 80s. You live and learn. During the survey noted a small circular panel that got included in the scheme (incorporated in a doubler). Odd thing was it was not on the second or third aircraft so I questioned the mod state to find it was a battle damage repair for a bullet hole!


Also worked on the Alouette 2 (My Dad had worked on the 3) I also worked on some of the same tail number Canberras as my Dad. I guess many folks lay claim to that one. I am only 57.


Looking forward to seeing the next instalment. Just love the polished finish. I remember one of my old bosses telling me about polishing the Hastings belonging to Mountbatten in the Far East so much that there was no heads left on the rivets.

CoffmanStarter 13th Sep 2014 18:42

Join in WW ... Post away old Chap :ok:

CoffmanStarter 13th Sep 2014 18:50

Good evening Drag old chap ... I'm beginning to think that you've had a "Design" input on most of the UK Mil Airborne Asset Inventory in your time :)

I'll post more pics tomorrow as promised :ok:

Willard Whyte 13th Sep 2014 21:20

I'll try tomorrow. Early night for an 05:00 wake up call to attend day 3 of the event.

smujsmith 13th Sep 2014 21:26

Coff, some seriously good pics there sir, but for me the Gladiator shot is the "bees knees". A beauty, and no mistake. I wish I could have got there.

Smudge:ok:

Just found this from the Telegraph showing the Lancs and Spits today:

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...pse8d4e722.jpg

Mandator 14th Sep 2014 05:53

Three Spits? Does not look like it to me.

megan 14th Sep 2014 06:32

Hurricane in the middle

CoffmanStarter 14th Sep 2014 08:23

Yep ... It was most certainly the two Spitfires and Hurricane from the BBMF. The Fighters landed and parked up in a themed Dispersal at Goodwood while the Lancs went on to display at Bournemouth. I believe Messrs Mason and Stringer flew the Spits. Not sure who flew the Hurricane though.

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...psaa8b2bbe.jpg

CoffmanStarter 14th Sep 2014 09:11

More pics as promised ...

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps10dc565e.jpg

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2fe96b38.jpg

1966 HAW Bestmann BU-181 Mk 6 : A training aircraft built to the design used by the Luftwaffe during WWII. Some might remember that James Garner (The Scrounger) and Donald Pleasence (The Forger) "borrowed" a Bestmann to make their escape in the film "The Great Escape".

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps58355675.jpg

1950 de Havilland DHC1 Chipmunk T Mk22 (starter conversion) : Needs no other introduction here. G-APYG (was WB619 CN C1/0060). I met the owners, Paul and Janice Doyle, and enjoyed talking with them about their "Pride & Joy". The aircraft is in excellent condition although they appear to be in need of a couple of Vac Artificial Horizons of the Non-Topple type (I think they were the Mk 1e type ... which had the little black pivot on the instrument's glass face ?)

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps29d7ab8e.jpg

1955 Hawker Hunter T Mk 8 : Needs no other introduction here. This example belongs to the Midair Squadron (seemingly sponsored by a certain luxury pen manufacturer). Not sure how she arrived at Goodwood (by road presumably ?) and equally not certain if she is airworthy as Midair operate two flying T Mk 7's.

Few more to come ...

Coff.

CoffmanStarter 14th Sep 2014 09:34

A few more ...

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...psf36d89a4.jpg

1944 North American P-51D Mustang "Ferocious Frankie" : Needs no other introduction here. Operated by the OFMC. She displayed with a Spitfire but I was unable to get a close up pic (might have been their Spitfire Mk IXb - G-ASJV/MH434) :(

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2092b422.jpg

Spitfire Mk LF IXc (T) : G-BMSB (MJ627) Operated by the Boultbee Flight Academy

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...psbc69dbc9.jpg

Spitfire Mk HF IXe (T) : G-ILDA (SM520) Operated by the Boultbee Flight Academy

CoffmanStarter 14th Sep 2014 09:57

And I'll just sneak this one in ... again another personal favourite :ok:

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/...pse9a5815f.jpg

1947 Beechcraft Bonanza Model 35.

Just love the curtains ;)

Coff.

Boudreaux Bob 14th Sep 2014 11:49

Coff,

We know those as "Forked Tailed Doctor Killers"!

CoffmanStarter 14th Sep 2014 12:21

Yes I know you do Bob ... Certainly wouldn't want to deliberately spin one :eek:

Willard Whyte 14th Sep 2014 18:44

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/IMG_8957.jpg

Willard Whyte 14th Sep 2014 18:45

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/IMG_9419.jpg

Willard Whyte 14th Sep 2014 18:46

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/IMG_9464.jpg

Willard Whyte 14th Sep 2014 18:47

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/IMG_9092.jpg

Willard Whyte 14th Sep 2014 18:48

D'oh, how did that get in there?

(Literally...)

Willard Whyte 14th Sep 2014 18:56

Moving (emotionally!) parade of D-Day veterans, part of a convoy of various military vehicles that stretched for about half of Goodwood's 2.37 mile lap.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...3/IMG_9536.jpg

CoffmanStarter 14th Sep 2014 18:56

Well played Willard old chap :ok:

just another jocky 14th Sep 2014 18:59


Originally Posted by Coffman Starter






1955 Hawker Hunter T Mk 8 : Needs no other introduction here. This example belongs to the Midair Squadron (seemingly sponsored by a certain luxury pen manufacturer). Not sure how she arrived at Goodwood (by road presumably ?) and equally not certain if she is airworthy as Midair operate two flying T Mk 7's.




"George" (she's a he, named after the owners grandson) arrived by road for the Festival of Speed and remained at the airfield until this weekend. He's not airworthy unfortunately and will never fly again. However, he has donated his left wing and several internal parts to keep XL577 flying and get XL600 into the air (hopefully later this year). :ok:

CoffmanStarter 14th Sep 2014 19:23

Cheers JAJ :ok:

Danny42C 14th Sep 2014 19:25

Is it do-able ?
 
À propos the Spit IX (T), was it feasible to instruct (or indeed fly solo) from the back seat ?

I note that the BBMF are to use a Harvard as a lead-in to their Spits - not a IX(T).

(Serious question from an old Spitfire Hand).

D.

CoffmanStarter 14th Sep 2014 19:45

Danny ...

Here is the Boultbee link ...

Boultbee Flight Academy

They adopt a similar training/conversion profile as the BBMF ... Chipmunk > Harvard > Spitfire.

Solo from the front seat for the very experienced ...

Fareastdriver 14th Sep 2014 19:48


À propos the Spit IX (T), was it feasible to instruct (or indeed fly solo) from the back seat ?
I would have thought so. IIRC they were produced for the Eire Air Corps just after the war.

just another jocky 14th Sep 2014 20:11



Here's XL577 on Friday.

Not max speed as the poster says, but around 450kts.

Sorry, don't know how to link to You tube.

Danny42C 14th Sep 2014 20:21

What's in a name ?
 
Fareastdriver,

For the Irish Air Corps, you say ? I rest my case !

And before you call in the Racial Discrimination Police, if you knew my surname, you'd realise that they'd be on a hiding to nothing.

I'm as Irish as they are, I can say what I like about 'em ! :ok:

D.

chiglet 14th Sep 2014 20:44

Re the Jeeps. Several years ago my Partner and I were in and around Amouranche and Bayeaux. We stayed a night in a Farmhouse gite with an English family and a "Mad Dutch" [their description] middle aged couple. The Dutch couple were semi retired, and drove a large Mercedes...with a trailer. on the trailer was a Jeep, and they loved dressing in U.S. uniforms and touring the Invasion beaches and other places...brilliant


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