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Roland Pulfrew 23rd May 2014 21:33

Tourist, have you ever done long range SAR?

JYKelly 23rd May 2014 22:15

Missing yacht
 
RP
Don't start him off!
Tourist
How's the sandpit?

MATELO 23rd May 2014 22:49


Guys, there is a lot of talk about things being different if we had an MPA and what if a liner sank mid atlantic.
What exactly do you think an MPA would bring to such an event?

The MPA can only act as a search asset
.
Truly showing your ignorance there fella.

Carbon Bootprint 24th May 2014 00:47

Hull found by US Navy
 
The Beeb is reporting that a US Navy warship despatched to the area has found the hull of the Cheeki Rafiki. The ship had only a surface swimmer aboard; the swimmer banged on the hull and apparently received no response.

They found the cabin of the yacht was flooded and the windows shattered. The yacht's keel was also broken, causing a breach in the hull. It wasn't clear if the life raft had been deployed.

The article leaves it unstated whether the hull will be recovered, and only said "they now expect to find the rest of the vessel soon" (whatever that means).

Full article at the BBC News.

EDIT: Later version of story at link above says the life raft had not been deployed...

fincastle84 24th May 2014 06:05

A sad conclusion. RIP.

B Fraser 24th May 2014 06:12

Thanks to our American chums for extending the search. I trust we will do the same should the need arise.

Wander00 24th May 2014 06:49

Thanks to the searchers - thoughts with families and friends of the crew of Cheeki Raffiki. It is a hard demanding sport

ShotOne 24th May 2014 07:17

Just heard search called off as life raft confirmed still on board. Many many thanks for giving it your best to all involved in the search

Lima Juliet 24th May 2014 08:06

Tourist


Let's not get carried away about how useful an MPA is in these circumstances
I couldn't agree more.

Trying to justify MPAs for search is rescue is just plain dumb...:=

However, justifying an MPA capability to hunt subs, protect the National Deterent, escort friendly naval task forces, provide over the horizon maritime ISTAR and shadowing other Navy's vessels (such as the recent visits by the Russian Udaloy or the ADMIRAL KUSNETSOV and her support vessels). Now that is a justification...:D

Sad news for families today...:(

Navaleye 24th May 2014 08:23

I think we now have to accept these sailors are now lost and our thoughts should be with their families. I think that the US Coast Guard and other assets from all nations have done an extremely professional job in the search for them and I pay tribute to them.

Time to close this thread.

500N 24th May 2014 08:29

Agree on all points.

Wander00 24th May 2014 08:43

Agree, but if it continues should concentrate on the yacht and crew, and thanks to the searchers, civil and military, but not get emeshed in the "MPA" debate - that is for another time, another place.

Hangarshuffle 24th May 2014 09:05

Agree.
 
Yes a sad conclusion. The families of these lost sailors have my deepest sympathy.

FODPlod 24th May 2014 09:16

Terribly disappointing news. The capsize must have been catastophic and almost instantaneous. Thoughts are with their families and friends.

El Grifo 24th May 2014 09:41

Normally 2 guys on watch clipped on and two guys down below sleeping. Not an easy escape at night.

Any idea what the procedure is, if any, for recovering the boat and any bodies ?

El G.

Capetonian 24th May 2014 09:57

Sad but predictable ending, the sea is unforgiving. There has been some speculation about the suitability of the yacht design, with its bolted on keel, for the type of sailing it was subjected to.

These guys died doing what they enjoyed. I imagine the atmosphere in Farnham today must be rather sombre, I was there yesterday and the rescue operation was a main topic of discussion.

Fox3WheresMyBanana 24th May 2014 10:04

RIP.

Now, can we please learn the lesson of taking the Coastguards' (USCG, UK) word for it next time? This way funds can be better spent on the next person who needs rescuing.

El Grifo 24th May 2014 10:30

Always assumed that fuel costs were pretty low in that part of the world Fox !

El G.

500N 24th May 2014 10:52

" Any idea what the procedure is, if any, for recovering the boat and any bodies ?"


I thought they sunk boats like that ?

Wander00 24th May 2014 10:56

Fox 3 - but when the search was first abandoned, the non-deployment of the liferaft was not known. Crew could still have been in an, albeit small, air pocket in the upturned hull. Had those facts been ascertained then, abandoning the search then might have been a correct decision, but not when those points remained unresolved, IMHO


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