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2Planks 22nd Feb 2014 12:50

(off topic) Willard - I find if I clear the cookies I get another 10 :ok:

Wander00 22nd Feb 2014 13:34

Met Office told councils to expect a 'drier than normal' Winter - Telegraph


Someone in Government has missed a trick - have not heard them blame the Met Office yet for not warning them

langleybaston 22nd Feb 2014 14:40

QUOTE: BINBROOK!!! The rain passes over Binbrook horizontal on route to Brize.

a geography and/ or meteorology refresher is recommended.

or Binbrook isn't where I left it, or Brize come to that!

As an ex-Metman of great wisdom and experience, I can divulge that long-range forecasts are useless, always have been, and always will be. The Office has been struggling, totally unsuccessfully, to produce them ever since I courted Mrs LB 55 years ago: she was in the "laboratory" [Met O 12] that was tasked solely with providing just such forecasts. Meanwhile I was next door in Met O 11 running the Ferranti Mercury Mainframe engaged in producing useful short-range stuff that was and still is the world leader.

I shudder to think how much time, energy and money has been spent on the chimera of long range forecasts.

They cannot really stop my pension, can they?

awblain 22nd Feb 2014 15:23

Are geese really stupid enough to hit buildings now? If not, then a modest change in temperature won't make any difference. Then again, given some of the procurement going on, I would think a few solid geese slaps to the head are long overdue at the MoD anyway.

The Navy's docks will need to stay ocean-proximate. If the ocean goes up a bit, then that's just life…

NutLoose 22nd Feb 2014 15:31

Base hangar with its underfloor heating will make a damn good sauna :)

Union Jack 22nd Feb 2014 16:11

I can't see anything detrimental about a Navy base going under water!

Especially Devonport, which is after all a submarine base ....:D

Jack

NutLoose 22nd Feb 2014 16:19

Be nice to see the Victory floating again.

Background Noise 22nd Feb 2014 16:26

Good job we got rid of Lyneham :rolleyes:

Trouble with high airfields is they are in cloud all day!

gr4techie 22nd Feb 2014 16:32


RAF Sealand went up and down with the tide!!
So does Bae Warton. The ground moves by one or two millimetres.

Where Warton bolts together sections of Typhoon, they have such a close tolerance that the shop floor moves on computer automated jacks and fricken laser beams compensate for the daily up and down motion.

http://www.baesystems.com/article/BA...3D100ivb3byl_4

Roland Pulfrew 22nd Feb 2014 17:59

Well Kinloss used to have a small geese problem; don't ever remember any of them flying into any buildings though!!

racedo 22nd Feb 2014 18:16


Base hangar with its underfloor heating will make a damn good sauna :)
What would be required to turn it into a Jacuzzi ?

NutLoose 22nd Feb 2014 19:25

Probably weld up the doors, then run a Voyager's bleed air off through some hoses, must be tons lying about as they're not doing a lot these days

awblain 22nd Feb 2014 19:46


Where Warton bolts together sections of Typhoon, they have such a close tolerance that the shop floor moves on computer automated jacks and fricken l@ser beams compensate for the daily up and down motion.
Sheer PR brilliance. "Our factory's falling to bits" is mysteriously translated to "blah, laser beams on sharks, blah, blah, high tech blah…."

It matters not what is the absolute position of the two bits to be stuck together, but their relative position. The claimed "matchstick distance off correct" is still quite a lot for a Typhoon, and way more than 2mm in the radius of the Earth.

gr4techie 22nd Feb 2014 20:46

Awblain... Still, the tolerance of the Typhoon is much better than Hawker Siddeley ever managed with all the different shapes and sizes of Nimrod.

NutLoose 22nd Feb 2014 20:54

Anything under an inch would be better then.

big v 22nd Feb 2014 21:26

Anyone remember Ploce?

Hangarshuffle 22nd Feb 2014 22:17

The Telegraph is an utterly bollocks paper.
 
True. I read it this morning, thankful that I never actually bought the thing. Very little worth reading in it except Clive James and I am increasingly confused as to its target audience. Ex-Public schoolboys and girls, mostly I guess.*






* not a pop at this particular tribe, just seems to be all about them, all the time.

Danny42C 22nd Feb 2014 22:54

(Ref: #10) Quote:

"Who gives a rat's arse about Canada Geese hitting buildings? What makes Abbeywood's buildings more likely to be hit than any other 3 storey buildings in and around Bristol (or the rest of the country). Canada Geese aren't flying into buildings on a regular basis at other locations where they already flock - unless of course all the ones at Abbeywood are blind!"

Or under Air Traffic Control ? :8

(Couldn't resist - sorry !)

N2erk 23rd Feb 2014 02:37

Roland- if Kinloss had a 'small' goose problem, perhaps they were Lesser Canada Geese, possibly a more situationally-aware variety. :D:D

500N 23rd Feb 2014 05:31

Well, I did a quick Google and can find one reference to Canada Geese flying into a building and that is the Sands Apartment building in Scarborough, Yorkshire.

And not the whole building, just one end that was painted a very light grey
and blended perfectly with the skyline as the geese flew out to sea.


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