PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Military Aviation (https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation-57/)
-   -   Squadron 'Uncles' (https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/530134-squadron-uncles.html)

Lima Juliet 17th Dec 2013 19:09

Squadron 'Uncles'
 
I see that the reserve are advertising for Squadron 'Uncles' for Typhoon Squadrons - RAF Reserves - FTRS Vacancies List

I think the Squadron Uncle is a great scheme and I remember the great Furze Lloyd taking this role on during the 90s. If only I lived near Lossie/Leuchars! :{

BTW - for the Loadies, a Squadron 'Uncle' is different to a Squadron 'Auntie' which is an entirely different thing! :E

Any takers?

LJ

just another jocky 17th Dec 2013 19:58

Never heard of a Sqn Uncle before.

Looking at the job spec though, sounds more like a Gofer than anything else. :confused:

Typical duties may include assisting the Sqn Executive Officer with Ops and Planning tasks.

Exposure to sqn support functions and reports/returns (such as AFT & CFT compilation, SAPPHIRE, F540 etc).

airpolice 17th Dec 2013 20:35

Three reasons why recruitment may be harder than for some other jobs.


Of particular note is reference to the ‘Effect of Re-employment on Commutation’.

Reserve personnel are required to maintain currency in CCS and RAF Fitness. The successful applicants will be expected to undertake CCS and RAF Fitness during their probationary period.

And of course, no flying pay.

Wander00 17th Dec 2013 21:21

Is that "Uncle" as in the Adj in "Aces high"

Party Animal 18th Dec 2013 07:33

airpolice,

Several good reasons not to sign up but it could suit a 55 year old newly retired aircrew bod living locally, that has no idea what to do in life for the next 5 years. On the understanding that FTRS posts run till age 60.

Interesting that new jobs are still being created though in this era of cuts, slash, cuts, burn and more cuts everywhere else.

Onceapilot 18th Dec 2013 08:06

Each to his own. Full-time holding Officer:uhoh:.

OAP

snippy 18th Dec 2013 09:38

"Three reasons why recruitment may be harder than for some other jobs."

Agree loss of flying pay might be one, But I completely disagree with the other two. I am a 51 year old FTRS who has eased through his latest fitness test and recently completed CCS (it's not how it used to be by a long shot).

Wander00 18th Dec 2013 10:02

Furze Lloyd - now there was a guy. Did I hear that sadly he had died before his time?

BEagle 18th Dec 2013 10:08

I find this concept of squadron consiglieri quite astonishing.

Is the RAF really so understrength that it cannot meet these requirements from within conventional manning sources?

Chugalug2 18th Dec 2013 10:14

Would it not be a good idea to seek Dutch ones while they're at it?

The Helpful Stacker 18th Dec 2013 10:42

Squadron 'Uncle'? Sounds a bit Yewtree to me.....

spekesoftly 18th Dec 2013 10:42


Would it not be a good idea to seek Dutch ones while they're at it?
Only if properly dressed, complete with Dutch cap.

dragartist 18th Dec 2013 11:02

Or an Indian Auntie

Biggus 18th Dec 2013 11:09

In these financially constrained times, maybe what they really need is a ......

Sugar Daddy!

NutLoose 18th Dec 2013 11:19

Or perhaps, "Punka Wallah", all waft and no luft. Wouldn't the job fall under the remit of the FOO mentioned elsewhere?

Wallah 18th Dec 2013 11:28

NutLoose,

It used to, certainly there were posts on 3(F) and 11 called OC Mission Support Flight that looked after Ops, Int and Admin (plus visits, bogs and drains, F540, AFT/CFT etc). These were deployable posts and created to replace the old Harrier Sqn "Uncles" (certainly on 3(F) anyway). Not sure if they are binning the OC MSF post and going back to the "Uncle" concept or keeping the OC MSFs and effectively duplicating 90% of the post.

tailchase 18th Dec 2013 19:02

Why P or WSO?
 
Not sure why so restrictive as no flying involved and more of an extra exec level post to do all of the tasks that the old uncle posts did. Half of the jobs they do will prob require more broadened experience than they perhaps envisage.

Wallah 18th Dec 2013 19:30

My guess is so they can be an Auth and Duty Exec, which were the only things OC MSF couldn't do.

airpolice 18th Dec 2013 19:32

Tailchase, it's probably about the fact that the aircrew omnt he squadrons concerned will be Pilots only. I don't see an ex nav mentoring a newbie typhoon driver.

Party Animal, I was thinking that repaying your lump sum might put recent;y retired people off.

LadyWhyatt 19th Dec 2013 08:47

Furz Lloyd - 20 Sqn Uncle & my Dad
 
In response to the question from Wanderl00, I am sorry to confirm that my Dad, Furz, passed away in 2010 after a long battle against multiple injuries after a major car accident the year before.

He loved his time as a sqn uncle - he was a great mentor, source of support & mine of information to them, as well as wearing a groove in the counter of the bar.

I stayed one night after being marooned by East Coast trains at Grantham - seeing the affection that the sqn & other mess members had for him was great - his calling card of 'my dear chap' ringing out as we entered the bar.

I miss him so.


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:53.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.