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Blue Bottle 11th Oct 2013 14:55

Flying finished at Gutersloh
 
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e...ing-in-germany

Such a great station...

1.3VStall 11th Oct 2013 15:57

It was a great station - memories or Goering's Room and the Kellar Bar. What will happen to the station now?

Onceapilot 11th Oct 2013 15:58

More than that, seems this is the end of permanent British military flying in Germany.
Quite an event IMO!

OAP

fantom 11th Oct 2013 16:09

Ah, the chairs in the Bruggen SHQ with swastikas... who got that set, I wonder.

goudie 11th Oct 2013 16:18

Just finished reading the biography of AVM John Howe. 'Upward and Onward' by Bob Cossey.
AVM Howe was a one time Station Commander, RAF Gutersloh. It's a jolly good read.

Tankertrashnav 11th Oct 2013 16:39

You mean 19 and 92 Lightnings arent there any more ? :{

Great weekends tanking them on Friday and Monday, and ourselves Friday night to Sunday lunchtime :ok:

newt 11th Oct 2013 16:49

What a shame!! Had the best days there in the early 70's Loads of flying and drinking far too much beer!

Where will it all end?

Wonder if we can get back all the stuff we paid for after we broke them at dinner nights?:ok:

ex-fast-jets 11th Oct 2013 18:25

'twas even better during its Harrier era!

Best tour of my life - despite the odd moment which was not something to remember fondly.

Lovely Station - great flying - excellent social life.

I visited the place last year - and it really wasn't the same under Army control as it had been under RAF control.

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/boohoo.gif

SilsoeSid 11th Oct 2013 20:14

My brother was at Gutersloh tech'ing on the 4 Sqn Harriers; then as life's paths weave their way, I was there flying Gaz & Lynx.

Happy days for us both during our different 'Gutersloh days' :ok:

langleybaston 11th Oct 2013 20:46

and the Met. presence has been reduced to a single adviser to the army until they put the lights out and throw away the key. My melancholy task in the 1990s was to pull our people out of Wildenrath, thin out JHQ and start the run down at Brueggen, Laarbruch and Detmold.

I KNOW we were a golden and very fortunate generation,

VictorNavrad 12th Oct 2013 19:13

A Germany towline was a highly sought after sortie at Marham, it meant you had a weekend at Gutersloh. Managed several visits over my years on Victor tankers but without any doubt the best was the weekend we managed to be there for the summer ball. The Marham summer balls were fantastic but the Gutersloh ball was better, more like a Roman orgy of food wine and women.
Perhaps my memory is not as clear as it could be! I recall one Monday getting airborne to tank some lightnings but our frequency was in use by some USAF flight passing flight plan details to the controller. Having waited several minutes to get a break, our captain lost his patience and pressed the transmit to utter " Fu*k off Yank ". By return the ground station replied " station calling say again" Our man responded instantly with " You too cloggie" Silence fell for a few moments and we made contact with the fighters.

BEagle 12th Oct 2013 21:17

Sad to see the end of flying at Gut...

Did EX. BOLD GAUNTLET there when I was on F-4s and it was an excellent week. Flying was dull (apart from 'paying a visit' to the Eder and Möhne Dams on the 40th anniversary of OP. CHASTISE...:E), but the social life was generally excellent! On one occasion, a SSAFA sister took a shine to one of the FAF Mirage pilots with whom we were having a beer and flung her arms around him. He simply put down his beer, took his cigarette out of his mouth and placed it butt end down on the bar, then disappeared down to the Keller bar with her. A few minutes later, he re-appeared having clearly DCO'd, picked up his beer, replaced his cigarette and carried on his conversation... Quelle sang froid! Vive le sport!!

Several trips there in later years in the FunBus doing double IRTs and beer runs - always excellent.

There is no way it can have had the same life during pongo times - but I'm sure they enjoyed it too in their own way.

newt 12th Oct 2013 21:33

Sorry Bomber it was much much better in the Lightning days!!:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Coochycool 12th Oct 2013 21:37

Apologies for my digression but does anybody have any idea when the Pongos move out and they finally lock the gates?

Considering a job there but I'd like to be assured there'd still be at least some semblance of life about the place, or whether I'm being sold a dead duck.

Cheers

Cooch

Blue Bottle 13th Oct 2013 07:53

Gütersloh Princess Royal Barracks – to be vacated by the end of 2016.

http://www.sce-web.com/_files/users/...3605E578E6.pdf

Coochycool 13th Oct 2013 10:54

Much appreciated BB :ok:

Talk about the wind of change...

AtomKraft 14th Oct 2013 01:40

As a young squaddie in 1978, I joined Pegasus GC at Gut.

Anyone remember Bob Bickers?

matkat 14th Oct 2013 07:11

Was on the Puma and Chinook servicing flight (PCSF) 1982-83 and deployed with 230 Sqn great times been back to visit a few times but as previously said not the the same, just the memories.

KG86 14th Oct 2013 07:46

Ahh, Goering's Room.

We had a number of great events in that small room but....

On one occasion, the MD of Boeing Helicopters was visiting 18 Sqn. We decided to have a lunch in Goering's Room, to show him how well preserved it was. He entered the room, looked around, and promptly walked out again! During the Second World War, the MD had flown B17s over Germany, and had lost hundreds of colleagues at the hands of Goering's pilots. He was outraged that Goering's Room was kept as a shrine to a war criminal, and would not enter it again.

It just goes to prove - one man's preservation of history is another man's disrespect to the dead.

OafOrfUxAche 14th Oct 2013 08:16

VictorNavRad:

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