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SASless 2nd Sep 2013 22:27

You notice I did not specify any limitations on who was included....it was a generic description of a recipe for disaster where ever it is encountered and who ever is involved.

Be it Glasgow or Atlanta the mixture is the same in results.

parabellum 3rd Sep 2013 02:58

Not sure if it is the same now but when I was still in the biggest sanction you could apply to Fijians was to send them back to Fiji, discharged as "services no longer required". Fines and prison won't bother these guys, as soon as they are sober they will be model prisoners.

SOSL 3rd Sep 2013 14:12

SAS,

The police aren't always right and the black guys aren't always wrong.

Rgds SOS

Shack37 3rd Sep 2013 14:50


You notice I did not specify any limitations on who was included....it was a
generic description of a recipe for disaster where ever it is encountered and
who ever is involved.
Be it Glasgow or Atlanta the mixture is the same in results.
Nice comeback SASless but my re-reading of your post still leaves me with the impression you're referring to the soldiers.

GreenKnight121 4th Sep 2013 03:40


Originally Posted by Outlaw Pete
What worries me most is that allegedly, the cop was carrying a knife. NYPD are not without controversy though.


Originally Posted by perthsaint
It's utterly perverse that a knife-carrying racist can be treated as a victim.


Originally Posted by New York Post
“At this point the victim pulled out a folding pocket knife

I understand that in the weapon-paranoid UK the thought of anyone carrying something like this (longest blade is 3") http://www.knife-depot.com/images/pr...3/6_247027.jpg

is automatic proof that the person carrying it is a homicidal maniac, but I've carried one just like that since I was about 10 years old (as have millions of Americans)... and have never once even threatened anyone with it (including all 8 years in the USMC), much less tried to cut someone.

However, I feel confident that, if I were being advanced on by 6 angry men who were threatening bodily harm, and I tried (foolishly) to scare them off with it, that Outlaw Pete and perthsaint would consider me a vicious criminal that deserved whatever happened to me.

SASless 4th Sep 2013 03:47

Shack.....so you were and still are wrong....that happens when one "assumes".

AR1 4th Sep 2013 06:16

UK vernacular in Spam Land? - I spent some time working in NY a couple of years back and frequented an Italian restaurant. The chap working the tables used to identify the 'checks' by a written description the diners. In our case it was 'Limey B@stards' I won't tell you what he wrote to describe the Indian table.

As for this instance, don't know, wasn't there!

LT Selfridge 4th Sep 2013 07:04

An underpaid cop who has watched too many movies against Fijian mercenaries...?

"...the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable.'

Sorry Oscar.

perthsaint 4th Sep 2013 07:08

GK121,

You omitted to mention in your scenario whether or not you'd started the incident by racially abusing the men to make them angry.

Please clarify.

GreenKnight121 5th Sep 2013 03:32

Doesn't matter... the entire premise you and certain others are operating under states that the mere presence of the knife by itself automatically makes the possessor in the wrong and justifies whatever anyone wants to do to him.

500N 5th Sep 2013 03:34

Any update on this, the court case, what happened ?

OutlawPete 5th Sep 2013 06:17


Originally Posted by GreenKnight121:8029171
However, I feel confident that, if I were being advanced on by 6 angry men who were threatening bodily harm, and I tried (foolishly) to scare them off with it, that Outlaw Pete and perthsaint would consider me a vicious criminal that deserved whatever happened to me.

A bit of distortion of what I actually wrote there, Greenknight. I struggle to see where any situation is improved by carrying a weapon (unless you're at war!) even a 3 inch folding blade which, lets face it, will still kill/maim. It may carried for innocent reasons but if it's there for defence then arguably, the holder is still prepared to pull it on a person and use it, which is highly unlikely to have a good outcome.

For the record, I'm glad the UK is 'weapon paranoid' as you put it. Its far preferable that the other extreme where the right keep assault rifles in your kitchen cupboard is the norm.

500N 5th Sep 2013 06:32

"I struggle to see where any situation is improved by carrying a weapon"

How about 6 blokes after you and you use it to defend yourself,
possibly taking out a few of them in the process to even up the
odds ?

perthsaint 5th Sep 2013 06:35

GK121,

Your comment is amusing. Nonsense but amusing.

OutlawPete 5th Sep 2013 06:36


Originally Posted by 500N:8031345
"I struggle to see where any situation is improved by carrying a weapon"

How about 6 blokes after you and you use it to defend yourself,
possibly taking out a few of them in the process to even up the
odds ?

Thats fine till they overpower you, disarm you and use your own weapon against you.

500N 5th Sep 2013 06:40

That is always the danger.

I was going to put another line in about not letting them
know you have it and using it as well as can be.

Hey, I'd prefer to go down fighting than on my knees praying !!!

JSFfan 5th Sep 2013 06:46

It could have been worse, they may have been Samoan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naWQ6GWKLw8

Fg Off Bloggs 5th Sep 2013 06:49

Another of CG's threads that has nothing to do with 'Military Aircrew or Aviation'!

Jet Blast?

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SASless 5th Sep 2013 13:35

One wee pocket knife isn't about to scare off Six Drunks intent upon mayhem. It would certainly put an easily observed identifying mark or two on a few of them.

They would look a bit odd in a Show Up Parade with part of a Nose or an Ear missing wouldn't they?

mad_jock 5th Sep 2013 14:43

Not really if they had just played a match.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/185...x2-340x227.jpg

http://foxtalk1.files.wordpress.com/...kie-blood.jpeg


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