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Al R 27th Aug 2013 17:35

Threat to Akrotiri..?
 
Airforce pilots ready for suicide attacks in Syria


Around 10 Syrian Air Force pilots are reportedly willing to carry out Japanese World War-II Kamikaze-style suicide attacks on enemy targets in the event of an attack by the US and its allies.
I hope they miss the WRAF Block.

smujsmith 27th Aug 2013 17:42

Al R,

Ignoring the flippancy, re The ladies accommodation for a minute, exactly the question I asked on the "here it comes, Syria ...." Thread. I have a horrible feeling about the fact that, unlike subs, carriers etc, Akrotiri can't be hidden. I hope they who know it all have this sort of thing covered.

Smudge

Al R 27th Aug 2013 17:56

My flippancy was not meant to be disrespectful to the potential danger - I was there a few times when the place was reinforced by the blisteringly awesome RAF Regiment with its superb SHORAD capability (.. now ceded to the Royal Artillery of course). I was once casevaced into TPMH (something else we gave up on just a bit too soon?) one night and a Sqn Ldr PM burst into the bathroom with a shrieking 'Put that light out, don't you know there's an air raid threat?'. That one was El Dorado Canyon - it was like 'that' Susannah York scene but all jumbled up.

edit: I hope none of this will breach opsec - mods, I am sure you will act decisively if need be.

langleybaston 27th Aug 2013 19:38

When the Turks vs Greeks Cyprus Round One 1964 was on, our back garden on OMQ in 8 Comet Crescent was occupied, very reassuringly, by Rocks with a dug-in Bofors.

Next door only had a Vickers.

Nice warm feeling

Very hard on our supply of tea and coffee, though.

Because you're worth it.

Kerosene Kraut 27th Aug 2013 19:40

There are radars and there are missiles. Nobody will come close unseen. Not even the mighty Flogger.

West Coast 27th Aug 2013 20:24

Said Capt Smith.

Kerosene Kraut 27th Aug 2013 20:35

We have had plenty of them in Germany inherited from the east germans. Not exactly stealthy.

Canadian Break 27th Aug 2013 20:48

Much like Al R, I was there during El Dorado Canyon, specifically sent for the AD of Akrotiri. The tales I could tell - that PP or CC could corroborate! "Yes, of course OC CBFC will be available 24/7 as the scramble authority" now, in my mind, rank alongside other such "truisms" like "your playmate taxies"; "yes, the tanker's airborne" and " of course I will still love you in the morning". :E

500N 27th Aug 2013 21:41

Since Eldorado Canyon was mentioned, if I may add a bit of humour
to the already posted dits.

This from an article I read the other week.

This is the last page of what was written by one of the F-111 pilots.

Above and beyond. Take a left at Portugal.

"About 90 minutes later, we latched onto the boom of a tanker with 2,000 pounds of fuel—about 15 minutes of flying time—remaining. We landed at Lakenheath and were towed into a shelter, where a caravan of cars pulled up. General Charles Gabriel, the Air Force chief of staff, was eager to welcome us back. I put my helmet in its bag and started gathering my other stuff: pistol and ammunition, maps, code books, checklists, an empty lunch box, water bottles, and two full piddle packs. I carefully rose from the seat and descended the ladder. As soon as I turned around, there was General Gabriel, his right hand extended.

Our eyes met. It was an awkward moment for me, but the general instantly understood. He immediately took the piddle packs with his left hand, while shaking my now-free right. The first time I met the chief of staff, I gave him two pints of urine."
:O



The full article can be read here.
Above & Beyond: Take a Left at Portugal | Military Aviation | Air & Space Magazine

NutLoose 27th Aug 2013 22:14

They don't want to go to Cyprus, the countries broke... Surprised the Yanks are not offering say a few mil to defecting pilots.

Motleycallsign 28th Aug 2013 08:03

I'm sure that with some of the assets that 'are not there' the coalition leaders will want to protect the base.
I remember standing outside the Ops block when the Greeks put missiles into Paphos etc, watching an F18 in Turkish Air Force markings wax the runway without warning.

Party Animal 28th Aug 2013 08:26


There are radars and there are missiles. Nobody will come close unseen. Not even the mighty Flogger.
Yep, we will see the incoming.

Bugger all we will be able to do about it but at least we will know the general direction it came from!

langleybaston 28th Aug 2013 08:42

a bit like someone else's fart in a lift, then .............. you know what it is, where it is, and where it came from, but cannot escape until the ride stops.

teeteringhead 28th Aug 2013 09:01


a bit like someone else's fart in a lift,
... that's wrong on so many different levels .........;)

hat, coat etc .....

Arty Fufkin 28th Aug 2013 09:01

It's only 170nm from Damascus to Akrotiri, well within the range of an awful lot of Syrian missiles. Last I read even the type 45 doesn't have an Anti Theatre Ballistic Missile capability.
I'd personally prefer a much longer stick if I was going to poke that particular hornets nest.

Tashengurt 28th Aug 2013 09:06

I don't want to be alarmist but to all those at Akkers; Heads down, chins up.


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orgASMic 28th Aug 2013 09:07

Move along, there's nothing to see here. According to the Cyprus Mail
Cyprus does not expect UK base to play major role in Syria action | Cyprus Mail

matkat 28th Aug 2013 11:47

Ah well says it in the newspaper, panic over then.:ugh:

Wyler 28th Aug 2013 12:23

Never fear, there is a long range AD Radar at Troodos....
Oh no, hang on, they removed that some years ago to save money.
Silly me.

PingDit 28th Aug 2013 12:58

Or the S259 radar down at 280SU Cape Gata - oh, hang on a minute....

Al R 28th Aug 2013 13:20

Don't worry, there's always the RAF Regiment Rapie...

Broadsword*** 28th Aug 2013 13:26

When I was serving in Cyprus a few years ago, my next door neighbour's friend, who was a Syrian, related a brush he had with the Syrian Government. He had been living in Cyprus for several decades and consequently had failed to serve his obligatory national service in his homeland. When he returned to Syria for a visit, he was told by the border authorities that he had been sentenced to death in his absence......but it was okay, as, owing to the passage of time, he was now considered pardoned. "Gulp."

mayorofgander 28th Aug 2013 16:15

Are the Reds there? Will there be a medal???

If so, Akro is the place to be!!!

Later...MoG:cool:

langleybaston 28th Aug 2013 16:41

Is the 40mm Bofors still in the garden of 8 Comet Crescent RAF Nicosia?

Pity.

Actually its not at all funny, the days of gunboat diplomacy should have ended after the BLiar nonsense but oh! dear me, no, successive self-important arseholes of governments keep wanting to rattle ever diminishing sabres to detract attention from their general incompetence.

Canadian Break 28th Aug 2013 21:41

Troodos radar
 
Wyler, more than some years ago - 1994!

500N 28th Aug 2013 22:24

"Will there be a medal ???"

I was wondering if that subject was going to come up.

Willard Whyte 28th Aug 2013 22:40


F18 in Turkish Air Force markings
That doesn't seem kosher.

Anyhoo, as intimated earlier I'd be a little more concerned about Hwasong 5s, 6s & 7s than a banzai Sukhoi or MiG attack.

Mad_Mark 29th Aug 2013 05:13


I was once casevaced into TPMH
Why do people do this? :{

Where the Fu€k is TPMH (without having to look it up)? Just use the F'ing name of the place, not all of us are walking ICAO databases FFS!!:ugh:

And relax....



MadMark!!! :mad:

MFC_Fly 29th Aug 2013 05:26

Chillax MM, it's not an ICAO... TPMH is "The Princess Mary's Hospital" at Akrotiri. :ok:

Not been to LCRA (sorry, couldn't resist :E ) for many a year and didn't know that TPMH had closed - sad news indeed.

langleybaston 29th Aug 2013 08:22

two of my children were born in

wait for it

wait for it

BMHD

British Military Hospital Dhekelia ......... which is where RAF Nicosia sprogs were hatched.

27mm 29th Aug 2013 08:52

Ah, home of the glorious Queen Alexandra's Royal Armoured Nursing Corps...:ok:

tezzer 29th Aug 2013 09:10

BBC reporting 6 tornados being sent as a precauitionary measure.

TEEEJ 29th Aug 2013 09:28

Tezzer,

Not Tornado, but Typhoons.


The Ministry of Defence said sending six RAF Typhoon jets to Cyprus was a "prudent and precautionary measure" and they are not being deployed to take part in military action in Syria.

We can confirm that as part of ongoing contingency planning, six RAF Typhoon interceptor fast jets are deploying this morning to Akrotiri in Cyprus.

This is purely a prudent and precautionary measure to ensure the protection of UK interests and the defence of our sovereign base areas at a time of heightened tension in the wider region.

This is a movement of defensive assets operating in an air-to-air role only. They are not deploying to take part in any military action against Syria.

The PM has made clear no decision has been taken on our response and the Government has said that there will be a Commons vote before direct military involvement.
MoD: 'Prudent measure' to send Typhoon jets to Cyprus - ITV News

2Planks 29th Aug 2013 10:03

Buy shares in Chris's Kebab House!!

Tigger_Too 29th Aug 2013 10:33


Queen Alexandra's Royal Armoured Nursing Corps
QARANC - Quick and Ready - and NEVER Caught :O

Al R 29th Aug 2013 11:02

Mark,

"ICAO": International Civil Aviation Organization.. right? Got that from the Turkish radar thread.

I often hear FFS mind. ;)

Blue Bottle 29th Aug 2013 12:24

On the way ..
 
Typhoon jets sent to Cyprus to guard against possible Syrian retaliation | World news | theguardian.com

Pontius Navigator 29th Aug 2013 12:57

Nothing like concentration of force and economy of effort.


Nothing like . . .

Good thing they don't have Scuds.

Scud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, they do have them.

Well the Bloodhounds at Parimali West will get them.

Oh, we don't have them? :(

Rossian 29th Aug 2013 13:31

Dear god....
 
....is Olympus Radar no more? Talk about cutting off one's nose,unintended consequences etc etc

The Ancient Mariner

kaitakbowler 29th Aug 2013 13:34

Thoughts with AKR
 
Having had my friends and family a terrorist target at AKR (Aug 3rd 1986) I can only hope that should it all kick off re Syria that all on the Island stay safe.

Paul M


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