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ShotOne 12th Jul 2013 16:49

Rubbish Names!
 
Rivet Joint! ...eh? From the nation which built the Devastator, Hellcat and Thunder Warrior. Why are we buying aircraft with such rubbish names?

5 Forward 6 Back 12th Jul 2013 16:58

Do you think Devastator, Hellcat or Thunder Warrior would be good names for a medium-level sigint aircraft based on a 50-year old airliner....? :E

NutLoose 12th Jul 2013 17:05

How about the

Eneh Mk1. Named after Nimrods Spouse

Any add ons could go in the Eneh pod.. That should get things moving :p

Herod 12th Jul 2013 17:07

from a "Carry On" film. "My name is Hengist Pod, and this is my wife Senna"

thing 12th Jul 2013 17:42


good names for a medium-level sigint aircraft based on a 50-year old airliner....?
How about 'Rivet Joint: I Hope So'

Sun Who 12th Jul 2013 18:06

Rivet Joint
 
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_RC-135 if you want to see some of the funky names the US has come up with variants of the KC135 over the years.

Sun.

VX275 12th Jul 2013 18:31

Their Airships presumably also don't like the name Rivet Joint, so in RAF service it will be known as Airseeker. (an equally rubbish name IMHO).

WhiteOvies 12th Jul 2013 18:41

I'm not fond of the designation Lightning 2 particularly - hence on this site at least Dave is popular. For an aircraft that hovers, sticking to a bird of prey is good but all the hovering ones (Kestrel, Harrier and Osprey) have already been used.

Matching decent names to aircraft does seem to be tricky, whilst I like the nod to FAA history the name Avenger for the King Airs at Culdrose is somewhat at odds with the role.

For RC-135 perhaps some sort of vulture would have been appropriate...

gr4techie 12th Jul 2013 18:50


Originally Posted by Shotone
Devastator, Hellcat and Thunder Warrior.

Chipmunk.

Mentioning that name must have stuck fear into the cold hearts of the Ruskies.

Pontius Navigator 12th Jul 2013 19:00


Originally Posted by gr4techie (Post 7937632)
Chipmunk.

Mentioning that name must have stuck fear into the cold hearts of the Ruskies.

Well a Cessna F172P did so every reason for them to worry about the Chipmunk.

SomeGuyOnTheDeck 12th Jul 2013 19:07

In the good old days, they would have come up with something much more appropriate. Consider for example the Beardmore Inflexible:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...le_Norwich.png

Wikipedia: Beardmore Inflexible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Easy Street 12th Jul 2013 19:22


Originally Posted by White Ovies
For an aircraft that hovers, sticking to a bird of prey is good but all the hovering ones (Kestrel, Harrier and Osprey) have already been used.

That got me thinking, so I turned to Google, and it turns out that buzzards occasionally hover. I don't think there's been a military 'Buzzard', and it would have been quite an appropriate choice because only some varieties can hover, and even then they mostly use a bit of headwind to help:). Trouble is the Americans call buzzards 'hawks' so it would get quite confusing; in the States a 'buzzard' is a vulture....

mr fish 12th Jul 2013 19:35

but but..RJ himself thought SPITFIRE was a rubbish name......just saying!!

Rigga 12th Jul 2013 19:45

My bet's on the next BAES offering for a pretentious Air Force with no money....











The 211-Rubber-Band powered Fuzzy-Felt & Velcro Frightener!

Sir George Cayley 12th Jul 2013 19:46

Pop Rivet?

SGC

Tankertrashnav 12th Jul 2013 19:54

I was always puzzled by the Canadians' choice of the name Cormorant for their Merlin variant, given that the bird spends a lot of its time diving underwater - not a practice to be recommended in a helicopter :eek:

CoffmanStarter 12th Jul 2013 19:55

IMHO ... the name Reaper stinks :ugh:

bingofuel 12th Jul 2013 19:56

Were chipmunks not used during the cold war, based in Berlin, where they conducted covert surveillance over the other side of the wall?

ericferret 12th Jul 2013 20:01

Martinsyde Buzzard, would have replaced the Camel/SE5A and others in 1919 had the war continued.

Camel now that name must have had the Germans laughing fit to bust, maybe that was when it sneaked in and shot them down thereby giving them the hump..

Then you had it's stable mate the Salamander a slippy creature for ground attack.

Cuckoo laying it's eggs in other peoples nests.
Sopwith seems to have had it's share of naff names.

The worst are when the designers haven't a clue and just add a two. i.e Thunderbolt 2.

CoffmanStarter 12th Jul 2013 20:02

Bingo ... the Chipmunk was also used in Cyprus on the Front Line. In fact WG846 of the BBMF served both in Crprus and Gatow :ok:

NutLoose 12th Jul 2013 20:02

Well you could pay a homage to its role as an ELINT and COMINT Aircraft and as its going to be based in the Western Europe

WESCINT Mk 1

airborne_artist 12th Jul 2013 20:23

I have it on good authority that many a Soviet general became a gibbering wreck at the mere mention of the Wiggins Aerodyne in the SF role :E

TEEEJ 12th Jul 2013 20:59

ShotOne,

See following for Rivet and other designations.


Rivet USAF Headquarters; ELINT/ECM programs
U.S. Military Code Names

U.S. Military Code Names

Code Name Listing - R

From

Designation-Systems.Net

ShotOne 12th Jul 2013 21:03

If its any consolation the RN seem to have lost the knack of coming up with good names as well. We've had Warspite, Battleaxe, now its HMS Duncan.....Duncan? Why name a ship after an unlamented ancient monarch who was murdered in his bed?

airborne_artist 12th Jul 2013 21:30

HMS Beaver, now that was a good name :E

NutLoose 12th Jul 2013 21:33

Mind you they got the Carrier Prince of Wales name correct, especially after the debate over how they should finally put the configuration to bed, a bit like his married life..


Expecting a knock at the door :O

Sloppy Link 12th Jul 2013 21:37

Lynx Mk10.....sorry, Wildcat.

gr4techie 13th Jul 2013 01:14


Originally Posted by bingofuel
Were chipmunks not used during the cold war, based in Berlin, where they conducted covert surveillance over the other side of the wall?

So that'll be more capable than the F-35, then?

Surplus 13th Jul 2013 03:18

Not content with the name Rivet Joint?

how about Buck-tail Spliff?

Arm out the window 13th Jul 2013 07:00

What about 'Blessed are the Big Noses'?

Il Duce 13th Jul 2013 18:18

For flight planning purposes, the four character abbreviation of Air Seeker will comprise the first and third letters of Air and the first and third letters of Seeker.

Wensleydale 13th Jul 2013 21:28

I had a go at a chap from Waddington about the name "Air Seeker". His response was that "Air Seeker" is the name for the whole system including aircraft, ground platforms etc, while the aircraft will retain the name "Rivet Joint" much in the same way as "ASTOR" and "Sentinel". I do not know enough about Air Seeker to know if this is the case, but....... that is what I was told.

Waddo Plumber 13th Jul 2013 21:44

Air Seeker sounds like someone who has dived too deep

TheWizard 13th Jul 2013 21:45


Originally Posted by VX275 (Post 7937591)
Their Airships presumably also don't like the name Rivet Joint, so in RAF service it will be known as Airseeker. (an equally rubbish name IMHO).

Wrong, I'm afraid.

It will still be called Rivet Joint. The project is called Project Airseeker.

Ring 51 Sqn if you don't believe me!! :ok:

Edit: Always read the previous posts!!

Surplus 14th Jul 2013 00:02

As 'Dave' seems very popular, what about naming the RJ in a similar way?

I suggest 'Walt' :E

dubbleyew eight 14th Jul 2013 00:52

looks like it is destined for fame

"we're calling it the Spitfire"
"what a rubbish name"-Mitchell.

tell them the Rivet Joint will be known universally as "the bong"
if they stop smoking it they will come up with a decent name.

Just This Once... 14th Jul 2013 09:20


The project is called Project Airseeker.
This is true and draws its project name from an MoD grouping that includes Project LANDSEEKER and Project SEASEEKER.

BEagle 14th Jul 2013 15:06


As 'Dave' seems very popular...
I thought that stupid, spotter-ish 'Dave' nonsense had run its course.

RedhillPhil 14th Jul 2013 15:14


Originally Posted by airborne_artist (Post 7937913)
HMS Beaver, now that was a good name :E

Imagine serving on Gay Cavalier and having that on your cap band.........

Phoney Tony 14th Jul 2013 15:47

How about following on in a current theme:

SENTRY
SENTINEL
SENILE


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