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SASless 10th May 2013 17:46

Prince Harry....The Soldier!
 
Nothing need be said.....beyond what a great thing to do!

Hand Salute Sir!


Arlington National Cemetery, Arlington Virginia.



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MightyGem 10th May 2013 19:55

Hey SAS, I know you're American, but does your photo have to be bigger than everyone else's? :E

SASless 11th May 2013 00:40

It was a grand gesture....so i figured a big photo was in order....and Harry deserves a lot of thanks for his thoughtfulness.

puma230 11th May 2013 07:13

Bloody good effort, well done Harry.

BOAC 11th May 2013 07:26

Will he have the odd party with a few lovelies while he is there? You know, renewing old contacts?:)

rjtjrt 11th May 2013 08:04

An example for all of us in the principle of "less is more".
Simple, sincere and respectful.
I am reminded of the changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace the day or so after the 11th of September, 2011,
when I understand they played the US National Anthem instead of
God Save The Queen.
It must have been a wonderful moment,
and again we should all see the value of understated sincerity.
John

P6 Driver 11th May 2013 08:06

There are some good photos of his Arlington visit on the web.

Also on the web, elsewhere, is the advice to him: "Keep your clothes on and stay away from Vegas!".

CoffmanStarter 11th May 2013 08:14

Nice piece on CNN ...

Prince Harry Arlington

ericferret 11th May 2013 10:44

He has probably just done more to improve anglo-american relations in a single visit than all the politicians have achieved in their endless hot air sessions.

Always Up 11th May 2013 11:58

Nice one, good for you Harry.

SASless 11th May 2013 12:30

RJ mentioned another occasion worth remembering.




BOAC 11th May 2013 13:14


"Keep your clothes on and stay away from Vegas!".
- Hmm - I suspect worthless advice, since I'm sure any number of US pretty's would travel long distances to have their piccy taken receiving a Royal porking.

He has probably just done more to improve anglo-american relations in a single visit
- was that this time or last?

A few thoughts 'arise' on 'cementing' UK-US relations (if you pardon the expressions and mis-spelling):

Do the ladies concerned get a plaque they can hang over their beds - "By Appointment, Purveyor of Nookie to HRH...."

Does the Royal Protection team have to vet each and every and are there any jobs going there?

In the extremely unlikely event of progeny arriving as a result, where would he/she/they be in the succession?

Poor fellow will be haunted by the letters 'USA' for a while, I suspect.

However, he's doing a great job at the moment, indeed.

SASless 11th May 2013 14:05

When Andy was here for a visit....the US Navy's NCIS provided the Personal Security Detail (PSD).

One of the NCIS Special Agents evidently provided very close protection to Andrew....and upon his leaving gave him a Token of her esteem...that being what is known as a PSD Pin. If you notice the Secret Service and other PSD Teams....they all have a unique Lapel device (PSD Pin) that allows them to immediately identify one another as being on the same "Team".

At NCIS...that PSD Pin is ranked with the Badge, Credentials (Warrant Card you call them I think), and the Firearm in importance re custody, security, and safeguarding.

NCIS took no punitive action against her and within a few short months....she had been hired by the Secret Service and assigned to Jimmy Carter's PSD down in Georgia.

SOSL 11th May 2013 16:06

SASless I have recently read most of your posts and I now offer you an unconditional and public apology. I was wrong! Hand salute.

Turning to your last post on this thread - it seems she wasn't the only one who went down to Georgia.


Rgds SOS

sisemen 11th May 2013 16:17


RJ mentioned another occasion worth remembering.
And that's a quiet reminder that despite all the piss-takes and some of the antsy angst on here there's a reason why the Americans and the British (including Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc) are called "cousins".

SASless 11th May 2013 16:58

Harry is attending the Warrior Games in Colorado and getting lots of attention from our Media.....all positive too.

Typical Gunship Pilot....hogging the spotlight!

brickhistory 11th May 2013 21:20

Good on him.

SASless 12th May 2013 14:04

OOPS!

Harry showed his Ass and got caught on film!


Harry's the fall guy! Prince takes a tumble in game of sitting volleyball with wounded service members competing in Paralympic style Warrior Games | Mail Online













But not in the way you were thinking!

TT2 12th May 2013 15:07

Spoiled wee brat.
 
With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre, in fact if we look back and remember, there was a bit of scandal over his dodged up arts degree.

There must be thousands of guys and gals who have studied hard and watch every single thing that flies past / over them and say to themselves, "I want, I want, I want".

But their Granny doesn't own the AF. Nor own PR reps.

I worked my bollocks of to be a pilot, and indeed learned a fantastic amount form Senior Techs when I went into Engineering. Respect to all SAC's.

Still involved in the aircraft defence supply industry in the Far East, I'd rather have a conversation with a Bangkok whore - at least they have some life experience and a sense of humour, do not dress up in Nazi uniforms and whilst suffering a drunken memory loss do not accidently wander into the toilet zone to inhale something that is reminiscent of powdered lactate.

I'm sure the Cotswolds crowd would happily string me up for these comments, but the boy is nothing more than a puppet.
Let's see him do an 'O' level maths paper (Or whatever it is called now).

You actually think they are going to let him in harm's way?. Spoilt wee boy who has never worked for anything in his life.

His Mum got killed? Yup - scooting around Afghanistan in a gunship, how many motherless children these days?.

I await, either a fair hearing or deleted or banned. tis' a Democracy after all.

Al R 12th May 2013 15:25

TT2

I wouldn't begrudge you your opinion, however you wish to discuss it.

I remember showing Harry my sniper rifle and him telling me he wanted to be a soldier. His mum looked down on him, smiled and told him, 'not on my nellie' or something similar. Cut him some slack.. you talk about him having no life experiences - have you buried your mum before the entire world and had acomplete cross spectrum of opinion about yourself, your parents and your activities shoved down your throat?

Whatever you think about his past, he is doing something worthwhile. Still, Sunderland have just scored against Southampton so don't worry, I'm not bothered too much about what you think. ;)

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Chugalug2 12th May 2013 15:35

Good post Al, well said! Can't say much more as I'm being squeezed off the page by SAS's enormous pic! Like yours though. Just shows that size isn't everything, doesn't it?

Edit, Oh, just noticed that I'm on the next page, thus negating most of what I said. Mother, Father, kindly disregard this letter!

Anthony Supplebottom 12th May 2013 15:39

I think he's just being British.

We tend to be well behaved - in the main.

parabellum 13th May 2013 07:41

You don't/didn't need 'O' levels to go to Biggin Hill for Aircrew selection.

cokecan 13th May 2013 09:01

he also didn't go to university, so why anyone would honk off about a dodgy arts degree is somewhat beyond me...

TT2's point might have had more, err... point if he had managed to talk about the right brother - which kind of mitigates against his claim that 'i'm a bright lad who worked bloody hard - why should this thick, lazy fecker get it for nowt' claim.

can't differentiate between two brothers who look different, are in different services and have had every detail of the education and careers broadcast to the world? probably best if you stay away from complex machinery....

snagged1 13th May 2013 10:24

TT2

"I worked my bollocks of to be a pilot, and indeed learned a fantastic amount form Senior Techs when I went into Engineering" -

So did you make it through flying training to the frontline and then go into engineering later or ?

Like Harry and many others, I joined without a degree, ended up single seat - a degree and school quals can make zero difference, or a world of difference - it all depends on the individual.
Regardless, he went through flying training, graduated, and has now been on operations performing his duty - there is no space on the frontline for pilots not able to perform, so rest assured he clearly has talent and is good at his job.

Runaway Gun 13th May 2013 11:13

I don't believe that TT2 passed high school English.

Genstabler 13th May 2013 11:37

I infer from a remark on a post on another thread that he doesn't have any medals to wear and that he has therefore never been in harms way. I therefore conclude that his class hate driven tirade against an Apache pilot who has done two operational tours in Afghanistan is a bit rich, even for him.

Chicken Leg 13th May 2013 12:14


Spoiled wee brat.
With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre, in fact if we look back and remember, there was a bit of scandal over his dodged up arts degree.

There must be thousands of guys and gals who have studied hard and watch every single thing that flies past / over them and say to themselves, "I want, I want, I want".

But their Granny doesn't own the AF. Nor own PR reps.

I worked my bollocks of to be a pilot, and indeed learned a fantastic amount form Senior Techs when I went into Engineering. Respect to all SAC's.

Still involved in the aircraft defence supply industry in the Far East, I'd rather have a conversation with a Bangkok whore - at least they have some life experience and a sense of humour, do not dress up in Nazi uniforms and whilst suffering a drunken memory loss do not accidently wander into the toilet zone to inhale something that is reminiscent of powdered lactate.

I'm sure the Cotswolds crowd would happily string me up for these comments, but the boy is nothing more than a puppet.
Let's see him do an 'O' level maths paper (Or whatever it is called now).

You actually think they are going to let him in harm's way?. Spoilt wee boy who has never worked for anything in his life.

His Mum got killed? Yup - scooting around Afghanistan in a gunship, how many motherless children these days?.

I await, either a fair hearing or deleted or banned. tis' a Democracy after all.
Wow! There's some serious bitterness in that post! You poor little man.

I can assure you that Harry is a very good pilot and passed his course on merit alone. I don't expect that my assurances will help to remove the obvious chip on your shoulder, but it doesn't alter the facts.

just another jocky 13th May 2013 12:29

TT2 - you are living proof that, despite the fact that everyone is entitled to an opinion, there's no requirement upon us to take any notice of said opinion.

It must be reassuring to all those involved in the Far East aircraft defence supply industry that such an intelligent, well informed and balanced individual is supporting them. :ok:

500N 13th May 2013 12:29

Prince Harry seems to have done wonders for US / UK relations.

He even managed to get a Major General to get on his hands and knees !

.

Tashengurt 13th May 2013 13:00

I guess TT2 is entitled to their opinion. Five years ago I might have been inclined to agree but since then I think Captain Wales has matured into an impressive man and officer.
Yes, paths may have been smoothed for him. When you're third in line that's probably inevitable but he could have taken advantage and got a nice city job or gone on a perpetual gap year.
I don't believe there's a shred of evidence that he doesn't deserve his Apache seat.





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MightyGem 13th May 2013 13:37


With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre,
For the RAF maybe. He's in the Army. You don't need any educational qualifications to apply for Pilot training(unless things have changed since I was in). As long as you can pass selection, your in.

Do you want fish with those chips? :E

airborne_artist 13th May 2013 14:05


With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre,

For the RAF maybe. He's in the Army. You don't need any educational qualifications to apply for Pilot training(unless things have changed since I was in). As long as you can pass selection, your in.
But bear in mind that there will be people still serving (just) in the RAF and RN (not so sure about the green/brown jobs) who joined on an SCC/MCC with five O-levels. Only General List entrants needed A-levels at that time.

M'learned friend Arkroyal was quite literally driving a London bus in his early 20s, went to night school to get the O-levels he'd missed out on and went to Dartmouth aged 25. He's now/was til recently in the LHS for a LoCo.

TT2 13th May 2013 15:49

Dunno?
 
Dont't know about you and when you went to Biggin, but when I went, 5 O' levels or O' grades were minimum - maths and English essential. Highers were even better.

I don't think having a tutor dodge up paintings was an acceptable qual.

AAC worked to a different set of qualifications - the recruitment Sergeant I spoke to maintained that if I joined as a grunt in three years I could be a helo pilot. For some peculiar reason, I believed him not............

Yes, I truly enjoyed the flying, it was hard work to get there. I also am absolutely indebted to the Engineers who helped me along the way - truly a fascinating vocation and that's what I still do.

I remain current and indeed was trundling around Khao Yai with Fon on Friday which was nice. Lovely scenery from 3000 feet. (Make like not bump into mountains during rain showers).

Anyway, I pay my taxes in full and am thus entitled to an opinion - it is a democracy isn't it? Is it?.

Genstabler 13th May 2013 16:00

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. This is indeed a democracy and I for one would fight tooth and nail to preserve your right to make a total knob of yourself on a public forum. So, I suspect, would Harry.

Tashengurt 13th May 2013 16:02

TT2, of course you're entitled to your opinion. You're also entitled to come across as a bit of a buffoon and with your insistence that Harry did an arts degree, that's what you're doing. Trust me. I was an engineer. Kinda.


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SASless 13th May 2013 16:16

Just as he has a right to his Opinion....he also has the Right to remain silent too!

Far better to be thought a Fool....than to open one's festering Gob and remove all doubt!

diginagain 13th May 2013 17:14


Originally Posted by TT2
AAC worked to a different set of qualifications - the recruitment Sergeant I spoke to maintained that if I joined as a grunt in three years I could be a helo pilot. For some peculiar reason, I believed him not............

It's a pity you didn't give him the benefit of your doubt. Many Army aircrew did just that.

TT2 14th May 2013 18:25

Confused.
 
errr.......what do bits of tin have to do with it?. I am sure you are an educated chap and are fully aware of Napolean's statement in this regard. I actually have had a .45 stuffed in my face by an extremely irate Cambodian who thought I was chatting up his G/F - wrong. I cannot speak Khmer.

Thai Marines I was with thought it was hilarious. She was rather pretty though.

TT2 14th May 2013 18:51

Aye....
 
"In June 2003, he completed his education at Eton with two A-Levels[13] (achieving a grade B in art and D in Geography) having decided to drop history of art after AS level"

One would kind of think that a knowledge of geography would be of importance to a potential Army Officer - good grief, that's why his great granny made her fortune. She knew where places were (it's called an atlas).

In my days a 'D' was less than 50% - i.e. Fail. PPl's have to get 75% on the tests.

Jeez, 4 years at Eton and that's all he gets, bit expensive like, for no result.

In my day an art A level would not even have got you past the initial interview in the local recruitment office. You had to have maths and english + 3 others minimum.

Someone here called me 'Bitter' : What bollocks. I actually have quite a nice life - it is pleasant. I get to fiddle with aircraft and helos, get to wander around with no restrictions, have three extremely nice ladies who are pals to a point, and speak the lingo of bordering countries. (As well as this one). But not Khmer, don't know why. Lao is O.K., various dialects in Thai are O.K., Puu Tai (Isaan dialect) is O.K., Burmese is O.K.

One thing is, that I get to meet people from many AF's and Mil and have a laugh without wondering about property and pension deprecation in Blighty.

And wander off to a nice wee private beach anytime I want. Bitter?. Tee hee. No.

Crack on chaps...........enjoy the memories. The clock is ticking.


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