98.8% Falkland Islanders vote to stay British
 

Phew, close run thing, only three said no. :E

No suprise there then, though the BBC reporter kept wittering on about dependency and the UN.. Talk about a stuck record, she was painful to listen too. You got the feeling that because she wasn't getting the answer she wanted she would repeat the questions parrot fashion until she did. The Falklands spokesman even had to correct her a couple of times on some of the key facts.

92% turn out. :ok:


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NutLoose, on a 92% turnout of registered voters, with 98.8% of those voting to remain British, does not mean that "98.8% Falkland Islanders vote to stay British". As overwhelming as the vote result is, your thread title is technically incorrect. ;)

I hope those three keep quiet about their opinions, or they may have to emigrate!

I hope the British Gov't waves it in the face of the UN
the next time this subject comes up as "already decided
as per how the UN likes it to be, by a vote" :O

Should be easy enough to name the 8% that couldn't be arsed to vote and to name the 3 that voted against. :E

The others may have been spoiled ballots rather than no votes.


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I42 - theres no need for them to keep quiet, independence from the UK is not a frowned upon view in Falklands society, its a minority view, but an entrely acceptable one - the reason almost no one votes for it is that almost everyone on the believes that if they became independant, and the UK military left, they'd be Argentine citizens within the week.

if they trusted Argentina not to either invade, or coerce them into 'choosing' to become part of Argentina, or indeed trusted the rest of the World - the US primarily - to uphold their right to self determination as a small independant country, there would, in my view, probably be a 10% for independence (legal independance, rather that cultural/societal detachment from the UK) - but they don't trust Argentina a nanometer, nor the rest of the world, so for them the reality of independance doesn't really exist...

99.8%.. feels a bit Soviet don't it?

obviously not normal

Knob, yes, its normal - international election monitors were in attendance, and their report is available on the FIG website.

all above board, no problems as far as they are concerned.

99.8% results aren't that unusual - just look at your failure rate with women...

coke - brilliant rejoinder :ok:

I see our FI troll has awoken. No doubt the Argie govt will apply similar logic to an unambiguous, expected landslide vote.

Good answer, Cokecan. I didn't see the original post as the Argie Dutchman is on my ignore list, but I can guess.

As we now have the result we all expected, that must be the end of it then. Hurrah!:D

keesje
 

Mate, good of you to turn up and show your federalist Eurocommission principles (ie if you dont like the result then challenge, challenge and re-vote until you get the result you want).

Might you not want to accuse the "so-called" independant observers (some of whom were from South American countries despite an Argentine request that they boycott it and prevent an attempt at legitimising it) of being Stalinist, British lackeys?

ps: you might want to turn your not-inconsiderable capabilities and interpersonal skills towards your own countrymen - who seem to be increasingly less enamoured with signing Dutch sovereignty over to the Eurocommisioners.

Get with the programme - you're in danger of being so 2012!

... oh golly gosh! That means a mere 90.896% actually voted to stay.

For comparison, what proportion of our electorate voted for any of our politicians!

I'm perfectly convinced the elections were properly done, honestly counted, observed etc. No doubts whatever that isn't the issue.

But still 99%.. did any UK mainland election ever have that score?

If the Dutch Antilles ever have an election with a 99% pro government vote, the media would have a field day, biting cartoons everywhere, a slightly embarrassed PM would meet laughter all around.

But obviously this is different. Congratulations with the 99% approval.

http://www.netanimations.net/Great-B...-flag-gifs.gif

;)

My results and percentage voted were lifted off the BBC newsflash last night, I simply quoted their figures... Right or wrong.

I see some on here also have added to the result as well up from 98.8% to 99.8%

They did say there were a couple of Argentinians on the Island eligible to vote, so may be the mystery 3.

But you are not comparing like with like keesje, when you make comparisons with the Dutch Antilles.

In the Falklands, the actual numbers are so small. Total population is less than 3 000, compared with 300 000+ for Dutch Antilles, and the electorate there is only about 1 500.

Moreover, about half the population - and so presumably half the electorate - live in one "city" (well, it's got a cathedral!): Xxxx Stanley.

Nothing dodgy at all mate .......:ok:

Edited in deference to Courtney Mil's revelations on naming convention ;)

keesje - high turnout
 

..there's another reason that you might wish to consider:

the high turnout is due to the fact that the islanders have experienced both forms of administration and feel STRONGLY about their preference.

God forbid that people might actually WANT to be British, or governed by Britain. I notice a similar situation in Gibraltar, too.

:confused:

The BBC had trouble with this this morning.

There is some difficulty over the correct name of the capital. Early despatches contain reference to both Port Stanley and Stanley. Port Stanley was accepted by the Naming Commission set up in 1943 to consider the names then being included on the War Office maps. Local opinion differs on the matter, but there is no doubt that Stanley is now common usage and has been for some considerable time. The capital is defined as Stanley in the Interpretation and General Law Ordinance. In the circumstances I would advise that the correct name for the capital is Stanley.

Last night the reporter was calling it a dependency, it was only when she was corrected again by an Islander who pointed out that they are not a dependency, but British overseas territory she conceded and said she would need to read up on it.

It's ok all this we inherited the Falklands from Spain and you seized it so it is rightfully ours malarkey, but you could turn that round equally and say the Argentinians (or should we say originally Spain) stole the country from the indigenous population.... Where would it stop, could we claim the USA back off the population as it was stolen from us and under the Argeninian argument, its nothing to do with the populace.. Or perhaps they in turn should hand it back to the Indian tribes we all stole it off.

The three people that voted against it, Carlos, Sergio, and Diego, were unavailable for comment...

Let's hope Stanley is in the correct place now.

When Pere Artist was Driver, Ship the big red bathtub took delivery of one of the first GPS systems.

Moored alongside the jetty the GPS showed that they were half-way between John Street and Fitzroy Road.

You'd have thought that the hydrographer who drew the chart in 1872 would have been more accurate :ok:

The great thing about democracy is that 3 people can express a preference for something else.
Picking up on another point regarding the turnout, it proves that the politically and socially motivated will always vote, something our too comfortable home electorate might chose to remember instead of whining about the apparent rise in popularity of some other parties in recent times.

We must be very considerate of the Minority view mustn't we?

Naah! Not when it's that small anyway and certainly not if we don't like their point of view.

At least there were recorded votes against the resolution, otherwise it might have looked like a stitch up not unlike the votes used to be in Iraq, Argentina could then have gone to the UN complaining about unfair polling....;)

Britain must have something going for it if 99.8% of the FI and 98.48% of Gibraltar voted (in 2002) to remain British.

Might be the OIL

Mole Man:ok:

Interesting that the cousins have hijacked the parallel thread on this subject on JB and it's become a "Bash Barry (Obama)" thread. Still, that's JB I suppose, maybe I'll start a discussion about the Huhne/Price affair on US Hamsterwheel - just to see if any of them have heard of it!

Didn't know there was oil in Gibraltar!

Then all we need now is the Scottish one :ok:

Well, the no vote was 50% higher than I expected, the French couple on West Falkland must have a kid who is old enough to vote. (Carlos, Sergio and Diego in fact all voted Yes!!!)

Desperate Alec has had a bill introduced today in the Jockistan parliament to allow 16 and 17 year old residents the right to vote in elections and any referenda.

Wee, sleekit, cow'rin, tim'rous beastie, comes to mind. :hmm:

It used to be called Gerrymandering!

The last time I heard the word Gerrymander was in the Stranglers song 'Nuclear Device'!

Ref Post #33, I think the question should be why aren't ALL 16 & 17 yr olds in the whole of the UK permitted to vote? They pay taxes, can be married, join up etc etc.

And here's a question. If the majority vote in Scotland in Oct 2014 is in favour of entering into negotiations to withdraw from Great Britain, will all posters on this thread be so effusive in their commendation of democracy? Scots aren't stupid and if the vote does go the way of Independence it will be because it is the settled will of the Scottish people, just as it is now demonstrably the settled will of the Falkland Islanders to remain an overseas UK territory. What's the problem with that?

Has a recount been demanded? ;)

I was going to post here saying something about how half our 16 year olds can hardly read let alone understand the implications of separation. But I changed my mind.

Personally, if FI had have voted out, that would be their right and I'd have respected it. Same with Scotland.

I'll drink to that, especially as they cannot. :ok: