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ex-fast-jets 16th Dec 2012 20:08

Lightning vs Harrier 1v1
 
On Harrier squadrons in the 70's, we used to put our JP's on 1v1 against Lightnings to improve their confidence. Even to a Harrier JP, it was soooooo easy!!

A Fox3 for a Harrier JP against a Lightning - easy!!!

And the Lightning always ran out of petrol and had to go home early!!

:):)

Tashengurt 16th Dec 2012 20:14

And it looks like you're still looking for a fight?

CoffmanStarter 16th Dec 2012 20:21

Ding Ding ... Seconds Out !

RedhillPhil 16th Dec 2012 20:31

I don't speak acronym - sorry. Is JP junior pilot? It's the grocer's apostrophe that's confusing me.

Kluseau 16th Dec 2012 20:53

I'd been wondering what the offspring of a Harrier and a Jet Provost would look like!

Wholigan 16th Dec 2012 21:05

Yep --- I think there's a good chance that Lightning Mate will bite to this thread! ;)

Oh and I imagine he'll be joined by newt. :E

airpolice 16th Dec 2012 21:13

Same hook, different worm.
 
So, I'm reading this and thinking, how would a JP, even a JP5 manage in a fight against a Lightning? I suppose that just keep turning slowly and waiting ( a short time ) for the Lightning to run out of fuel is the best option.

Mind you, there is always the old, "You've shot both of your missiles so that's you out of the game now" call to fall back on.

beardy 16th Dec 2012 21:29

8 minutes past nine on afraid day night, did your other friend go to harvest his mung beans?

newt 16th Dec 2012 21:53

Oh Bomber!! Oh Bomber!!


The only time you ever frightened me was when you overflew my crash site and nearly took my head off!!

We all know that Harrier pilots were easy meat for even the most junior Lightning pilot! Especially in the bar!!

Have a nice Christmas and do keep on dreaming!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

glad rag 16th Dec 2012 22:53


8 minutes past nine on afraid day night, did your other friend go to harvest his mung beans?
Mongo like beans,,,,,,

DBTW 16th Dec 2012 23:16

BomberH, this is scary! You told Newt it was coming and yet he still bit!!:uhoh:

Nothing from the target though!?

I suppose that's what Lightnings were then...targets you didn't get to see very often because they couldn't come out to play...

Pure Pursuit 17th Dec 2012 01:45

Sounds like the RAF didnt progress very much between the Lightning and the Torndao F3 in terms of WVR fighting!

Harrier mates used to cheat (in a very gentlemanly manner of course) their way into the merge, pushing aside AMRAAMs with a level of contempt that only Bona mates could offer, before smashing the F3 mates with ease and aplomb!

Great fun to control either side. :ok:

WhiteOvies 17th Dec 2012 02:10

Even easier was Sea Harrier vs F3 when FA2 had an AMRAAM and radar combination that actually worked... ;-)

Dengue_Dude 17th Dec 2012 06:15

Excuse me while I compare this apple with that pear . . . .

Lightning Mate 17th Dec 2012 06:28


Yep --- I think there's a good chance that Lightning Mate will bite to this
thread! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/wink2.gif


Oh and I imagine he'll be joined by newt. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ilies/evil.gif
Newt already has, but I'm not.

Fox3WheresMyBanana 17th Dec 2012 06:29

..and the FA2 would have found its carrier several hundred feet lower than where it took off from without the F3 to help defend it.

Harrier in telephone box fight? Very nice. But wars aren't fought that way anymore, grandad.

newt 17th Dec 2012 07:33

Now look what you have done Bomber!!

This could rumble on for years!!

Go on LM give them some flack! You know we were better than all the rest!!

Lightning Mate 17th Dec 2012 07:37

I'm tending to lie low Newt.

newt 17th Dec 2012 09:48

Never....... Not in your nature!!

Give em some stick. Remember, an ASBO is regarded as a badge of honour!!:ok::ok::ok::ok:

Pure Pursuit 17th Dec 2012 11:58

Fox 3!
 
Was that a bite? I've seen bites before and that's what they look like..!

Don't feel upset, you should know that every member of this forum had nothing but respect for the F3 guys.

It can't have been easy being part of the Twenty Minuters and it took a brave man to do it. :E


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