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Lightning vs Harrier 1v1

Old 16th Dec 2012, 20:08
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Lightning vs Harrier 1v1

On Harrier squadrons in the 70's, we used to put our JP's on 1v1 against Lightnings to improve their confidence. Even to a Harrier JP, it was soooooo easy!!

A Fox3 for a Harrier JP against a Lightning - easy!!!

And the Lightning always ran out of petrol and had to go home early!!

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Old 16th Dec 2012, 20:14
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And it looks like you're still looking for a fight?
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 20:21
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Ding Ding ... Seconds Out !
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 20:31
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I don't speak acronym - sorry. Is JP junior pilot? It's the grocer's apostrophe that's confusing me.
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 20:53
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I'd been wondering what the offspring of a Harrier and a Jet Provost would look like!
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 21:05
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Yep --- I think there's a good chance that Lightning Mate will bite to this thread!

Oh and I imagine he'll be joined by newt.
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 21:13
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Same hook, different worm.

So, I'm reading this and thinking, how would a JP, even a JP5 manage in a fight against a Lightning? I suppose that just keep turning slowly and waiting ( a short time ) for the Lightning to run out of fuel is the best option.

Mind you, there is always the old, "You've shot both of your missiles so that's you out of the game now" call to fall back on.
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 21:29
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8 minutes past nine on afraid day night, did your other friend go to harvest his mung beans?
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 21:53
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Oh Bomber!! Oh Bomber!!


The only time you ever frightened me was when you overflew my crash site and nearly took my head off!!

We all know that Harrier pilots were easy meat for even the most junior Lightning pilot! Especially in the bar!!

Have a nice Christmas and do keep on dreaming!!!
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 22:53
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8 minutes past nine on afraid day night, did your other friend go to harvest his mung beans?
Mongo like beans,,,,,,
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Old 16th Dec 2012, 23:16
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BomberH, this is scary! You told Newt it was coming and yet he still bit!!

Nothing from the target though!?

I suppose that's what Lightnings were then...targets you didn't get to see very often because they couldn't come out to play...
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 01:45
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Sounds like the RAF didnt progress very much between the Lightning and the Torndao F3 in terms of WVR fighting!

Harrier mates used to cheat (in a very gentlemanly manner of course) their way into the merge, pushing aside AMRAAMs with a level of contempt that only Bona mates could offer, before smashing the F3 mates with ease and aplomb!

Great fun to control either side.
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 02:10
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Even easier was Sea Harrier vs F3 when FA2 had an AMRAAM and radar combination that actually worked... ;-)
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 06:15
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Excuse me while I compare this apple with that pear . . . .
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 06:28
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Yep --- I think there's a good chance that Lightning Mate will bite to this
thread!


Oh and I imagine he'll be joined by newt.
Newt already has, but I'm not.
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 06:29
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..and the FA2 would have found its carrier several hundred feet lower than where it took off from without the F3 to help defend it.

Harrier in telephone box fight? Very nice. But wars aren't fought that way anymore, grandad.
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 07:33
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Now look what you have done Bomber!!

This could rumble on for years!!

Go on LM give them some flack! You know we were better than all the rest!!
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 07:37
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I'm tending to lie low Newt.
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 09:48
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Never....... Not in your nature!!

Give em some stick. Remember, an ASBO is regarded as a badge of honour!!
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 11:58
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Fox 3!

Was that a bite? I've seen bites before and that's what they look like..!

Don't feel upset, you should know that every member of this forum had nothing but respect for the F3 guys.

It can't have been easy being part of the Twenty Minuters and it took a brave man to do it.
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