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Samuel 27th Oct 2012 18:40

Flying DH Mosquito KA114
 

Here you go! Take a flight in the NZ Mosquito flown in this instance by Dave Phillips, from Ardmore south of Auckland to Auckland and back.

500N 27th Oct 2012 19:01

That was superb, thanks for posting.

The sound of the engines !

What I would do for a flight in a mossie.

fantom 27th Oct 2012 19:10


What I would do for a flight in a mossie.
Would you like to meet my sister?

Onceapilot 27th Oct 2012 19:21

Very nice !
Could imagine flying one from that. Presume the warning horn was for gear, with the throttles pulled back? Also, why was the Mossie formating on the Spit instead of the other way around? Surely we have learned enough about dissimilar type formations?

sycamore 27th Oct 2012 20:16

2 seater Spit ,and probably a cameraman...

Onceapilot 27th Oct 2012 20:32

OK, wooden rotor chap, that I can discern. But, why is the more agile aircraft leading?

Herod 27th Oct 2012 20:49

Thank you. I've just played it full-screen, and with the headphones at full volume. That's my hearing gone for a few hours, but well worth it.

Samuel 27th Oct 2012 21:17

Spitfire is the two-seater, and was filming the Vampire and Mosquito as they rounded the Sklytower in Auckland [taller than that of Sydney by the way!].

Beeping is due to retarding throttles with undercarriage up.....so I'm told.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...at/818copy.jpg

mantog 27th Oct 2012 22:39

That's a reet picture!

fergineer 28th Oct 2012 07:57

And the pilot when he is not flying for some foreign airline blasts around the skies here in NZ in his Hunter...... some people have all the luck....

Samuel 28th Oct 2012 08:37

He was with ANZ for many years. He also test flew the Anson at Nelson.

1.3VStall 28th Oct 2012 10:05

Please Mr Phillips can I have a ride?

I don't know why, but I always imagined the Mossie to have a control yoke rather than a stick.

Anyway, wonderful footage!:O

GeeRam 28th Oct 2012 10:47


Originally Posted by 1.3VStall
I don't know why, but I always imagined the Mossie to have a control yoke rather than a stick.

Both types were fitted depending on type.

IIRC, the FB/NF versions had a fighter style stick, and the B/PR (and maybe T?) versions had yokes.

Wingswinger 28th Oct 2012 10:48

Wonderful. Long may she ply the skies.

Now I know what my father experienced. He flew Mossies in WWII, 109 Sqn, RAF Little Staughton, Bedfordshire which was a unit of the Bomber Command Path Finder Force.

denachtenmai 28th Oct 2012 11:25

Thanks for this, I've just watched it and it's glorious.
My wife thinks I'm an "anorak" but do I care? no way, I am just glad that there is another piece of history flying.
Well done to all involved:D
Regards, Den.

Pink Panther 28th Oct 2012 12:12

What engine type is in this bird ? Being an anorak I can only count five exhaust ports, would have expected six per side.:confused: Great to see it flying all the same, one of my all time favourites :ok:

Dan Winterland 28th Oct 2012 12:16

Press "Like".

Could be the last? 28th Oct 2012 12:23

I heard that she was coming to the UK next year?

And that BBMF was looking to acquire one, so who would fly that? Surely it must be one of the Bomber boys:E!

GeeRam 28th Oct 2012 12:36


Originally Posted by Pink Panther
What engine type is in this bird ? Being an anorak I can only count five exhaust ports, would have expected six per side.

RR Merlin 25 I believe.

The 5 stack exhausts are because with the proximity of the rear (of six) stacks to the wooden wing root, RR had to redesign the exhausts, and the rearmost two cylinders have a 2 into 1 siamesed stack arrangement.
On later two stage Merlin engined Mosquitos, the longer nacelles allowed for a normal 6 stack exhaust arrangement.

GeeRam 28th Oct 2012 12:40


Originally Posted by Could be the last?
I heard that she was coming to the UK next year?

Sadly not.

There was a proposal to do so, but only if the restoration had been completed before this year.

The owner confirmed in a recent interview that the Mosquito will be shipped to the USA soon, and there are now no plans to bring the a/c to the UK in the forseeable future.

Could be the last? 28th Oct 2012 12:44

Why the States?

blah blah blah 28th Oct 2012 12:52

Because thats where the owner is from.

GeeRam 28th Oct 2012 13:06


Originally Posted by blah blah blah
Because thats where the owner is from.

And he has a rather impressive collection of toys too :ok:

Fighter Factory | Fighter Factory

Pink Panther 28th Oct 2012 13:18

GeeRam, thanks for education me today, much appreciated.:ok:

Herod 28th Oct 2012 15:32

Thanks for posting the photograph Samuel. It's currently my computer wallpaper.

soddim 28th Oct 2012 15:57

If BBMF were ever to get a Mossie it should surely be flown by the fighter pilots - after all, it was the first truly multi-role fighter bomber. Most importantly, it should be kept away from test pilots - their record with historics is very poor.

Scuttled 28th Oct 2012 17:25

The Mosquito is the aircraft Jerry Yagen is most proud of. No great surprise you would think, but he acquires aircraft by the month and 95% of those in his museum are flown regularly. He bought 4 new aircraft in September alone.

The museum is, in my opinion, the finest of its type in the world and the airshows are amazing. It's very accessible, no ropes or barriers at all.

As I said, the Mosquito is his pride and joy - even when put against his Spitfire, Hurricane, Mustang, B17, Ju 52, incoming Me 262, FW190 and so many more. He is an Anglophile and has many British aircraft and other toys/accessories such as WWII armoured vehicles, telephone boxes, post boxes, uniforms and more. He also has a V1 (and has run the engine) and an enigma machine.

Seeing is believing, the best time to visit is for the Warbirds Over The Beach airshow held every May. The Canadian Lancaster is normally there too.

Hard sell over!

Rosevidney1 28th Oct 2012 18:52

Thank you, Samuel. Well worth watching even if the envy factor was at its highest reading. :ok:

Dengue_Dude 28th Oct 2012 22:00


Long may she ply the skies.
Droll, very droll . . .

What a cracking video - thanks SO much.

500N 28th Oct 2012 22:06

"Sadly the Mosquito is destined for a home in the USA"

As much as everyone would like to see it in the UK, Australia, NZ,
I think we should be thankful someone in this world stumps up a
huge amount of money to get one airworthy and airborne, even if
it ends up in the US.

Samuel 28th Oct 2012 22:32

Thank for the notes of appreciation, but having been at the initial display and felt the enthusiasm for this wonderful aircraft and the people who flew it, I had a 'feel-good' factor which just had to be shared.

So fill yer boots!:ok:

Samuel 28th Oct 2012 22:45

Dave Phillips at work!
 
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...Photoshoot.jpg

Madbob 29th Oct 2012 09:26

I always thought the Mossie had a control column rather like that in the Canberra, ie a pair of spectacles, not a joystick as here. Obviously this can't be true in all marks, happy to be corrected though.

MB

glojo 29th Oct 2012 09:31

Hrrmphhh... Just another twin engined aircraft!!!

Just another twin engined aircraft my foot. I can understand why some folks might rate it above the Hurricane or Spitfire but being British I would say we owe those two aircraft so much but to me the Mosquito comes a very, very close fourth or maybe equal third favourite aircraft of all time and how I wish the BBMF had one of these iconic aircraft.

Thank you VERY much for the link and long may that aircraft grace our skies although what a great pity that America has once again stole a march on us :ok::ok::D

pulse1 29th Oct 2012 10:36


I always thought the Mossie had a control column rather like that in the Canberra, ie a pair of spectacles, not a joystick as here. Obviously this can't be true in all marks, happy to be corrected though.
I believe that the bomber variants had the spectacle control yoke, and a split windscreen. Does anybody know why the difference?

Herod 29th Oct 2012 16:59

Bomber pilots have both hands on the controls, while fighter pilots use one hand for something else. ;)

Stitchbitch 29th Oct 2012 20:55

Ah, the age old who'd fly a BBMF Mossie question raises it's head again. Bomber boys? Experienced on twins and mostly QFI or Ex QFI or the Fighter boys, the FB.6 was a fighter bomber after all and the next boss flys twin engined fighters..:E

tartare 30th Oct 2012 02:03

Just watched the whole video from beginning to end.
Wow - what an aircraft - and what a sound...
Been fascinated by it since I were a lad and built the Monogram kitset.
Thanks Samuel.

Brian Abraham 30th Oct 2012 05:59


I always thought the Mossie had a control column rather like that in the Canberra, ie a pair of spectacles, not a joystick as here

I believe that the bomber variants had the spectacle control yoke, and a split windscreen. Does anybody know why the difference?
The prototype had spectacles but Fighter Command wanted the conventional fighter stick. Many pilots preferred the spectacle since it gave more leverage and the aircraft was more agile. The flat windscreen was bulletproof, and a flat plate due gun sight aiming difficulties through the Vee windscreen. Flat screen gave higher drag though.


The 5 stack exhausts are because with the proximity of the rear (of six) stacks to the wooden wing root
A reason oft given, but historians say it was due to the interference of the rear most stack with the radiator. The radiator extended the leading edge of the wing 22 inches further forward than that of wing on the outboard side of the engine. The 5 stacks also identify the engine as a single stage version, the two stage was 9 inches longer and were able then to have the 6 individual stacks.

Bombers were usually powered by two stage and fighters by single stage engines.

Comparison of fighter and bomber cockpits All info from respected historians, graphic from "Great Book of WWII Airplanes".

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...am227/P132.jpg

dmussen 30th Oct 2012 07:49

The Mossie and Vamp.
 
What great news.
A thing of beauty is a joy forever.
My Pop flew NF 30s and F4 Vamps after the war with 502 ( Ulster ) Sqn.
He loved the Mossie because of its performance from the ground all the way to the top and the Vamp because it was like driving a sports car.
Interestingly he loathed the Meteor which despatched several of his oppos.
He loved the F Mk. 22 Spitfire the best, the lucky bastard.

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