"I do believe Mr Courtney Mil's comments because they are reasonable and because they are in accord with what I have seen from within the industry."


Courtney is a very knowledgable and experienced military aviator.

He is also having an amazing purple patch winding up gullible non-military types such as your self on a variety of threads at this time.

Go and look at his last 20 posts, and ask yourself.

" If I have failed to spot this man departing into the most egregious caricatures of military culture that anyone with a passing knowledge of aviation would spot a mile off, should I really trust my own judgement?"

Autism must make the internet tricky.

Just sayin'......

Oh, just a quick one.

Sorry to break this to you if it is a surprise, but you are aware that Topgun was not a documentary, right?

You have a way with words, my friend.:ok:

Courtney Mil - I appreciate you may come to regret your candour in previous posts should the worst happen and the media find your comments. This being so (wish I could say that in Latin), I have refrained from quoting your posts, so as to leave you the option of deleting them and preserving your pension.

Ipso facto? Nope, not sure. Something like that.

We once had a pompous Flt Cdr who loved using quasi-legal Latin terms in his letters, such as 'inter alia' ... An utter oik who thought his position in life was rather higher than in fact it really was. Courtney, you might have come across him when he was known as 'Thrombo' (the wandering clot) or 'AWF' (avocado with feet) in the early days of South Atlantic F-4 ops.

This was too good to resist, so many a made up Latin term was soon used in response to his turgid memos and minute sheets....:E

2 which I used were recalled from prep school days wrestling with Kennedy's Latin Primer:
Ipso facto more correctly refers to the direct consequences of actual fact rather than to something someone might have opined* as in 'His verbis dictis, autem'...


* - another wanqueword of early 1980s staff officer speak!

I'm led to believe a group of people who like to get intimate with trees climbed a hill and flew kites and balloons at the exit of the Mach Loop earlier in the year.
Funny how they weren't locals per say , visitors to the alternate technology centre I believe . Aircraft exiting the Loop to the north would have came down (god forbid) on or near Dolgellau the only built up area in these parts, ironically enough, should the worst have happened .
I believe some photographers waiting to photograph aircraft politely told them where to go.
Never ceases to amaze me the ignorance of some of the NIMBY's in that area. The genuine locals seem mostly ok about it (well, there are the odd days of wall to wall F-15's which I will admit are extremly loud directly underneath )
Being Mil Aircrew and a photog in the loop I've met with some harsh words from people visiting the hostelry I stay in.
One couple who have a holiday home in the southern loop where outraged at the aircraft flying below the level of their house!! (They live half way up a mountain!!). Not knowing who I was (at the time) they showed me a brochure from they're business back on the east coast.
They 'pimp' classic cars into drag racers !!!
Loud noise......:ugh:

BW

Thanks, BEagle :ok:

You think the media, whomsoever 'they' may be, are going to quote me from here. And take away my pension? Maybe PPRuNe hacking could be the next big story. I think you can safely quote me should you wish, but I do thank you for your concern.

Actually, if you think there's money in it, please feel free to pass on a teaser of my comments and invite them to get in touch for an exclusive. But I suspect even the Sun could spot a poorly baited trap from a million miles. Not that that would necessarily deter them.

BEagle, you're bringing back very disturbing memories of Latin classes now. I may need a cold shower, a cross country run and several lashes to complete the memory.

Courtney Mil - Once a disaster has occurred our good friend Mr Google is extremely good at leading media reporters to PPRuNe. On a couple of threads media reports have been found to be based on uninformed speculation which originated here only hours earlier.

Could Courtney and Mike be PPrune's answer to Morcombe and Wise? No prizes for guessing who is who!

Who?



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I am writing all the right words, just not necessarily in the right order!

This thread is the most fun I have had since my Grandmother caught her t*t in the mangle.

Mike wsm, you are more at risk of being mown down by Lord Lucan riding Shergar, with the Holy Grail tucked under his arm, than you are of witnessing a disaster due to the Red Arrows arrival techniques.

Lighten up, for God's sake man. If you had been at Kitty Hawk beach in 1903, those pesky bicycle mechanic chaps would have been banned from experimenting with their strange machine.

The Arrows are demonstrating the same skills that generations of RAF pilots have honed in peacetime in order to protect the burghers of Weston super Mud & other outposts of the Empire in times of conflict with those foolish enough to tangle with the Royal Air Force. You and I may not even be here if this were not so.

So, man up, fly the flag, put the RAF Marchpast & The Dambusters on your wind-up HMV gramophone & have a nip of whisky in honour of & gratitude to those who have done & still do, defend this Sceptred Isle.

Per Ardua ad Astra

HB

HB - To be honest, I think the Germans may have better marches.


(Yes I know it isn't really their's and was written by an Englishman)

In fairness though, both are trumped by Heart of Oak.

HS - now you've gone & done it - BEagle will have THAT picture up here again......

HB

Εἰρωνεία
 

'το μήνα που δεν έχει Σάββατο' would I dream of being ironic.

Sorry but my Latin is worse than my Greek and that's cr@p.

Halton Brat - awww, great memories of going to Halton on a navigation course during the fifties, was promised acquaintance with the Dalton Computer and entered the hut as an eager schoolkid expecting to see an enormous machine with flashing coloured lights, punched cards and teleprinter. In the event it was an ingenious machine to help you draw triangles, loved using it. We had the proper roller-blind ones. Do those still exist?

Exocet Hiya! Nice to meet on your home ground, I'm only here as a civvy home-owner. We didn't do Greek so will take that as "Never in my wildest dreams" or somesuch.

Stacker - shall look forward to hearing the music at the library, have to conserve data when at home.

It is a saying here. It is correct but I have just put it into 2 different translation programmes and it doesn't come out at all correct.

Basically, it means 'never' literally: The month that doesn't have a Saturday.

There endeth your Greek lesson of the day :cool:

Still no low flying Turks here :ooh:

Well said, that man. At last we have the final, definitive and absolute answer to this thread no, thanks to HB of our Human Resources Dept.

As there have been no other complaints from Weston-Super-Mare, it's safe to assume that the original question is now answered. If not, of course, we (The Official PPRuNe Complaints, Rebuttals and Accusations Panel - TOP CRAP) must assume that you are the one and only customer that we have been unable to find a resolution for. Should that be the case, we regret to inform you that we have exhausted our considerable legal and technical resources and must advise you now to elevate your complaint to the Daily Mail, who will be happy to give you a splash on page 52.

Of course, the MoD could always help, but I would advise you that October is a somewhat busy period due to leave, training and staffing issues commensurate with current manning levels.

We wish you every success,

TOP CRAP

Thanks, TC, however there are a couple more paper avenues as yet unexplored, shall be looking into those when my busy schedule permits.... :E


PS - Whilst on mil, may I ask if any Lancaster experts are in the hangar? I'm even now soldering lights into place so this is your final opportunity to exercise your knowledge. Thanks!

Of course, you try posting your thoughts on the "Please Fly Over My House" thread. They hade a different crowd there with a more reasonable mindset. But, naaa. I think you've probably given up. Just a thought.