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Asturias56 27th Nov 2022 16:49

I'm afraid the Chinese Govt has the resources and the will to crack down very hard. Unless the Security Services or the PLA decide enough is enough it will only end one way - as the Tienanmen Square business did.

ORAC 28th Nov 2022 03:41

China arresting and beating up a BBC reporter - claiming it was necessary to stop him catching Covid from thr crowd….


_Agrajag_ 28th Nov 2022 08:09


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11338425)
China arresting and beating up a BBC reporter - claiming it was necessary to stop him catching Covid from thr crowd….

These unbelievable "reasons" that the likes of China and Russia give for apparently justifying their actions never cease to amaze me. They clearly are not intended to be credible, so why, I wonder, do they do it?

I rather believe that this was just a case of the Chinese police following their SOP of randomly beating people up, with complete disregard for who they are. Not the first time this has happened, I believe there have been similar instances of foreign reporters being treated as if they were protestors. Didn't this also happen during the Tienanmen protests, years ago?

henra 28th Nov 2022 13:33


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11338172)
People were shouting: “Down with the Communist Party! “Down with Xi Jinping!” “We want freedom!”

A bit of a pity that this happens just AFTER Xi has increased his Death Grip on the CCP. Had it happend before his 3rd Term election he might not have had such an easy way to stay in office beyond the usual duration. Now will not be the time/opportunity to get rid of him for the CCP. Sometimes in Life timing counts.

Lyneham Lad 21st Dec 2022 11:46

In The Times today.

Indian army masses on Chinese border after soldiers clash

Snippet:-

India has moved an “unprecedented” number of troops to the disputed border with China after a clash between soldiers of the two nuclear-armed rivals.

Indian foreign minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar revealed that Delhi was mobilising thousands of troops along the mountainous 2,100-mile border, following an “encroachment” by Chinese forces that triggered a skirmish with Indian troops 12 days ago.

The powers have been locked in a standoff along the border for more than two years, since China crossed the border to seize strategic positions in the disputed region of Ladakh in 2020, sparking a pitched battle that left 20 Indian troops and at least four Chinese soldiers dead.

“Today we have a deployment of the Indian army on the China border that we have never had. It is done in order to counter Chinese deployment, which has which has been scaled up massively since 2020,” Jaishankar said in Delhi on Monday.

In the latest clash, the first major confrontation for more than a year, up to 400 Chinese troops entered the town of Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh, on the northeastern tip of India, on December 9. China considers the area part of Tibet and claims the territory as its own.
Indian officials claimed their troops had repelled the incursion after a clash that left soldiers on both sides with minor injuries. The situation remains volatile, however, as China steps up its military presence on the border, probing for weaknesses and moving tanks and artillery up to the frontier. The Indian Air Force said last week that it had detected heightened Chinese “air activity” in the region, forcing it to deploy combat aircraft at least twice this month.





Asturias56 21st Dec 2022 14:32

they haven't said how many of course - and ts the middle of winter so not likely to be vast numbers

the statement seems to be more to counteract some statement by the Indian opposition than the Chinese this week

Tawang has always been claimed by the Chinese even tho they did capture then withdraw from it in the 1962 War


chopper2004 24th Dec 2022 01:02

High Altitude LTA sighted
 
Few months back, it was reported that commercial satellite image from desert area in China picked up a very large hangar being constructed …(akin to Groom Lake, Area 51 standards) and rumored that the PLAAF may be toying with a large aerostat.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ip-development




now it transpires, there has been such a sighting off the Philippines

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...If8oSCmMdqoYVw


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....79605b7a1.jpeg


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....947f834e9.jpeg

Lyneham Lad 30th Dec 2022 11:43

In The Times this afternoon.

Chinese fighter jet gets within metres of US military aircraft


A Chinese fighter jet flew within six metres of a US military aircraft flying over the disputed South China Sea last week in what America denounced as an “unsafe manoeuvre”.

In the latest of a series of tense encounters, a Chinese Navy J-11 fighter jet intercepted a US Air Force reconnaissance plane with about 30 people on board.

The American RC-135 Rivet Joint aircraft was forced into “evasive manoeuvres to avoid a collision,” according to Indo-Pacific Command, responsible for overseeing US military operations in the region.

It added that the RC-135 was “lawfully conducting routine operations” in international airspace at the time of the interception last Wednesday.

Footage released by the US military shows the American aircraft maintaining its course and speed as the J-11 — based on the Russian Su-27 twin-engined jet — flies alongside and comes very close to its nose.
Click the link for photo/video and remainder of the article.


fitliker 30th Dec 2022 15:18

Makes you wonder if one of the new trainers was watching Top Gun and decided to Maverick them ? Although Maverick claimed to interdict inverted .
Too close for missiles , switching to handbags

Ninthace 30th Dec 2022 19:14

Clearly a Chinese pilot, used to looking over his shoulder.

jolihokistix 3rd Jan 2023 07:26

Good background to China’s WZ-7 high altitude drone and how it liaises with its aircraft carrier group.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...for-first-time

ORAC 6th Jan 2023 21:53

Japanese defense officials are weighing a plan to build dozens of ammunition and weapons depots closer to Taiwan in preparation for a potential Taiwan crisis - Nikkei.

The new depots will be located in the Nansei Islands, which include Okinawa and extend toward Taiwan from the southern tip of Japan's southernmost island of Kyushu. The government will begin discussions with local authorities and residents on the proposed islands.

The plans also call for deploying standoff missiles in the Nansei Islands to provide counterstrike capability against threats to Japan.

​​​​​​​https://t.co/fhad4pdai8

gums 6th Jan 2023 22:17

Salute!

Thnx for update, ORAC, but the biggest prize is not Taiwan but Guam or bases in the Philippines. Guam is the most important, with the other island bases there.

Okinawa is also important to the Japanese, and more than Taiwan IMHO.

Gonna be an interesting next decade over in the Pacific.

Gums opines...

rattman 6th Jan 2023 22:41


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11361153)
Japanese defense officials are weighing a plan to build dozens of ammunition and weapons depots closer to Taiwan in preparation for a potential Taiwan crisis - Nikkei.

Also looks like they will be retiring their 99 M270's as well


Asturias56 7th Jan 2023 07:27

"but the biggest prize is not Taiwan but Guam or bases in the Philippines. Guam is the most important, with the other island bases there.
Okinawa is also important to the Japanese, and more than Taiwan IMHO."

I think, from a straight military view you are correct. But Taiwan is NOT a military issue to the Chinese - it's very basic, visceral, politics (we all know the background).

They're unrelated in the Chinese mind I suspect


henra 7th Jan 2023 07:50


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11361323)
But Taiwan is NOT a military issue to the Chinese - it's very basic, visceral, politics (we all know the background).

They're unrelated in the Chinese mind I suspect

Indeed! Their interest in Taiwan is not due to a military strategic background. It's not a lever for them. For them it's the (historic) main price and they are looking for levers to gain this target or how to eliminate levers for the 'other side'.

West Coast 9th Jan 2023 08:00

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/polit...-ml/index.html

Let’s hope this remains theoretical only.

Lyneham Lad 11th Jan 2023 18:30

In The Times.
US sends anti-ship missiles to Japan as threat from China grows

Snippet:-

The United States is to deploy Marines armed with anti-ship missiles to a new rapid reaction force in Japan, in the latest move to deter China from attacking small Japanese islands or launching an invasion of Taiwan.The deployment of the Marine Littoral Regiment (MLR) in the southern Japanese island of Okinawa will be announced today after a meeting in Washington by the US and Japanese foreign and defence ministers.

It comes in advance of a summit between President Biden and Fumio Kishida, the Japanese prime minister, in which they will commit themselves to a new approach to regional security that will result in a doubling of Tokyo’s defence budget.
Click the link for the details & photos etc.



ORAC 13th Jan 2023 07:54

https://warontherocks.com/2023/01/ja...o-war-footing/

Japan’s Shift to War Footing



Lonewolf_50 26th Jan 2023 02:50

Maybe some people are preparing to fight the wrong war.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/01/25...tric-vehicles/
Full article in the spoiler.
Spoiler
 
Maybe the war is economic.


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