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Originally Posted by racedo
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Yup how dare they............. wonder who they got that idea from ? Cypriots / Diego Garcians / Cubans.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ease-an-island
Solomons' government vetoes Chinese attempt to lease an islandA Chinese company’s attempt to lease an entire island in the Solomon Islandswas unlawful and will not be allowed to go ahead, the Pacific archipelago’s government has announced.The deal between the Solomons’ Central Province and the state-owned ChinaSam Group was “unlawful, unenforceable and must be terminated with immediate effect”, prime minister Manasseh Sogavare’s office said in a statement. It said the provincial government did not have the power to negotiate the agreement for Tulagi island, which has the type of deep-water harbour coveted by the military. In addition, it said China Sam did not have foreign investor status in the Solomons and no deal could be finalised without the approval of attorney-general John Muria......... |
An interesting article in the Telegraph today regarding a possible new chinese stand off weapon... a new capability from it's "super" secret missile.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...vealed-chinas/ |
Originally Posted by AndySmith
(Post 10621941)
An interesting article in the Telegraph today regarding a possible new chinese stand off weapon... a new capability from it's "super" secret missile.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...vealed-chinas/ |
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Oh I would just loooove to see what the Excited States would do if China used one of those things to sink a Nimitz Class.
It'd be all on for young and old... |
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Always a bit sceptical of "accidental" releases of pictures like this - and there doesn't seem much ground clearance looking at the position of the undercarriage
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The H6s I have seen have always been immaculate and always easy to find as they are always in the same spot. Their ground equipment in a similar state and the pristine concrete aprons they occupy haven't a tyre scuff mark in sight.
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Does that mean you think they never move?
I was once reamed out big-time for taking at picture at Mt Pleasant of the tanker sitting outside the arrivals "terminal" - which was in exactly the same spot on every edition of Goggle Earth I could find. |
China’s newest aircraft carrier docks at Hainan
On Flight Global:-
China’s second aircraft carrier has docked at Yulin Naval base at the southern tip of Hainan Island, amid media speculation that it will soon be commissioned into Peoples’ Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) service. Satellite images provided by Maxar Technologies show the Type-001A carrier at pier side. Seven Shenyang J-15 fighters are visible on the deck, as are four helicopters. The rotorcraft comprise what appears to be a trio of Changhe Z-18s and a single Harbin Z-9. The carrier recently sailed from the Dalian shipyard to Hainan Island via the Taiwan Strait. https://newsassets.cirium.com/assets...x?itemid=79545 Image of China's Type-001A shot by Maxar Technologies' WorldView-1 satellite. Satellite image ©2019 Maxar Technologies. When commissioned (and named) the Type-001A will become China’s second operational carrier after Liaoning, which was developed from the hulk of the Varyag, a Kuznetsov-class carrier that the Soviet Union never completed owing to the end of the Cold War. The Type-001A represents a major milestone for Beijing as it is the country’s first locally designed and built aircraft carrier. Though it resembles Liaoning, with the same conventional powerplant, reports suggest it can carry 44 aircraft, compared with 36 for Liaoning. The vessel also has updated radars and a modernised bridge. Both Liaoning and Type-001A use a ski-jump to launch fixed-wing aircraft. This limits payload and precludes operations of support aircraft for missions such as airborne early warning & control (AEW&C) and antisubmarine warfare. https://newsassets.cirium.com/assets...x?itemid=79546 Yulin Naval Base is at the Southern tip of Hainan Island. Satellite image ©2019 Maxar Technologies. China’s third carrier, the Type-002, will be equipped with electromagnetic aircraft launch and recovery systems (EMALS), allowing it to operate a similar mix of fixed wing aircraft as found on US Navy aircraft carriers. In May, an artist's impression on social media offered more details about the Xian KJ-600, an AEW&C type resembling the Northrop Grumman E-2 Hawkeye AEW&C aircraft. The impressions suggest that the twin-turboprop KJ-600 will also have a carrier on-board delivery (COD) variant similar to the C-2 Greyhound, and an anti-submarine warfare variant. |
https://www.politico.eu/article/norw...g-opportunity/
Norway’s ‘northernmost Chinatown’ eyes Arctic opportunity |
Jeez - Kirkenes - a one reindeer town if ever there was one...................
But the Russians can keep a close eye on any Chinese goings on there for us - they get a bit prickly about activity up there. |
Britain’s newest warships at risk from Chinese
In The Times today:-
Snip from article. Experts have warned that China is advancing rapidly with anti-ship ballistic missile technology and sophisticated tracking capabilities that could put British aircraft carriers at greater risk. Beijing has developed both intermediate and long-range ballistic “carrier killer” missiles and is thought to have conducted a test of at least one variant in the South China Sea in the past six months. Improvements in China’s surveillance and reconnaissance capability – spanning satellites, drones and aircraft – also mean its ability to hit a moving target on water is strengthening, according to analysts. The developments are likely to fuel concerns about the vulnerability of Britain’s two aircraft carriers in parts of the Pacific in the immediate term and further afield in future. There are fears other countries could also adopt the technology. Beijing is thought to have recently tested on a moving target at sea the intermediate-range Dong Feng 21D anti-ship ballistic missile, which can travel a distance of 1,500km (932 miles). There has also been speculation that an even longer-range Chinese anti-ship variant of a ballistic missile called the Dong Feng 26, which has a reported range of 3,500km (2,175 miles), has been tested. |
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Moreover, these bases have just been constructed, so all the resources to repair or extend are at hand. The tweet smacks of wishful thinking by a non Chinese observer. |
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Beijing commissions its second aircraft carrierArticle & photos on Flight Global. |
I'll bet his arm was sore after shaking hands with this lot...
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....db0446c67b.jpg |
US says Chinese warship fired military laser at US aircraft
A CNN report.
The US Navy said Thursday that a Chinese military warship fired a military grade laser at US Navy P-8 surveillance aircraft last week while it was flying over the Pacific Ocean, an action that the US Navy called "unsafe and unprofessional." The People's Republic of China "navy destroyer's actions were unsafe and unprofessional," US Pacific Fleet said in a statement Thursday. "Weapons-grade lasers could potentially cause serious harm to aircrew and mariners, as well as ship and aircraft systems," the statement added.Military-grade laser beams, occasionally known as "dazzlers," omit a powerful beam of light that can travel great distances and be used to illuminate aircraft cockpits, temporarily blinding pilots. Defense officials told CNN that a formal diplomatic protests known as a démarche is expected to be issued. The incident comes amid ongoing tensions between the US and Chinese militaries. The Pentagon has repeatedly said that China represents an increasingly serious threat to regional security, saying that major Chinese investments in its military are aimed at achieving regional dominance. "Over time, we have watched them seize and militarize islands in the South China Sea, and rapidly modernize their armed forces, while seeking to use emerging technologies to alter the landscape of power and reshape the world in their favor ... and often at the expense of others," US Defense Secretary Mark Esper said earlier this month.The US has similarly issued such diplomatic protests in the past due to what the US said was Chinese military forces using lasers against US aircraft. One such incident took place in the East African nation of Djibouti where both the US and China maintain military bases. US officials in 2018 accused Chinese forces stationed in Djibouti of injuring US pilots with a laser that was fired at a US C-130J aircraft. |
Article published 3rd March on Reuters.
'Provocative' China pressures Taiwan with fighters, fake news amid virus outbreak |
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That's a very good illustration of the issue here - the Chinese think the whole SCS is their territorial waters
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Taiwan team discovers antibodies that can battle Wuhan coronavirus
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3912275
Time to shift things up a couple of gears. Where art though Oh HMSQE/F35B ? |
I wonder how they are going to pay for this when the world looks set to reclaim its manufacturing capabilities back from China..
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Originally Posted by weemonkey
(Post 10752090)
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3912275
Time to shift things up a couple of gears. Where art though Oh HMSQE/F35B ? |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10752159)
I wonder how they are going to pay for this when the world looks set to reclaim its manufacturing capabilities back from China..
Are they? Do you really think people won't go to the lowest cost provider as we've always done the moment the world opens up again??? Countries can't afford to subsidise vast swathes of manufacturing as they did 100 years ago |
I think a lot will change, penicillin for example, 40% of the US supply comes from China. Anything major and essential will move, It has started
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...2.cms?from=mdr https://www.businessleader.co.uk/jap...f-china/82975/ |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 10752167)
Are they? Do you really think people won't go to the lowest cost provider as we've always done the moment the world opens up again??? Countries can't afford to subsidise vast swathes of manufacturing as they did 100 years ago
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But the use of electromagnetic weapons, including low-energy laser devices, could be viable, as they can temporarily paralyze US ships' weapon and control systems without visible conflict but can send a strong warning, according to Song. |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 10752165)
Are you seriously suggesting the UK should get into a war, even an economic war, with China???? It would be very embarrassing to put it mildly............. 1 small carrier, a couple of T-45's against the PLA (N) - 20 destroyers plus 50 frigates for a start
The world has to stand up to this regime, this regime that has unleashed such a catastrophic disease upon the world. The UK, the mother of all democracies, we should be in the forefront of RETRIBUTION. Or are you just another Kier Starmer/ Bill Gates. [ dodgy knight of the realm, multi millionaire and NOT a Dr] ? |
Originally Posted by weemonkey
(Post 10753087)
As both myself and spouse are in the "recovery" phase of the Wuhan pestilence trust me when I say that the UK giving the CCP a reminder of the term "free navigation" is the very LEAST of options that are going through my mind at present.
The world has to stand up to this regime, this regime that has unleashed such a catastrophic disease upon the world. The UK, the mother of all democracies, we should be in the forefront of RETRIBUTION. Or are you just another Kier Starmer/ Bill Gates. [ dodgy knight of the realm, multi millionaire and NOT a Dr] ? firstly, I hope you and your spouse recover fully from this awful virus. My Ex wife is a nurse and caught this while treating people at hospital. She tells me that it was the most vile despicable thing that she has ever gone through. She rang the ambulance at one point due to difficulties in breathing. Triage was that extreme that they told her she didn't need an ambulance because she could say a sentence without coughing or fainting so wasn't a priority. I am wondering what you mean by standing up to China? What retribution are you thinking? Do you honestly think that China deliberately unleashed this upon the world while killing its own citizens; a biological MAD policy? Personally I don't think this is the case. Should you wish retribution, there are two options, IMHO, that could be used. Firstly we could hit them economically. This would involve a whole-world effort and agreement to hit China where it hurts and economically isolate China. Bring back all factories. Don't buy Chinese goods. Stop all trade whatsoever. Expel Chinese workers etc. This may bring China to the table with the idea of claiming some sort of compensation tied with guarantees that they stop whatever practices we wish for them to stop. On the other hand, with their backs to the wall, the Chinese may push back militarily or financially. Call in all debts etc. We could hit them militarily but this is something that I would not suggest. We would lose more than we would hope to gain. Is there any chance, once you get better, that you could give us an idea of what your idea of Retribution is please? |
It appears some people are keen on revenge so they can add to the total numbers of people dead.
Blaming China for this overlooks who should be blamed for other viruses that cut swathes through mankind at different time from different countrys. Bearing in mind it is clear that Western Intelligence services had picked up on this in early November, well before even the Chinese knew it was an outbreak and did nothing then who is at fault ? Israeli's quite open they were warned along with NATO allies then yet nobody did anything. China is not responsible for many countrys health services being underresourced and lacking equipment, that is a home grown decision. Likewise China is not responsible for any countrys, even as the outbreak developing, taking cockeyed decisions like herd immunity, not buying PPE and many other actions until it was already too late. It has been China and Russia who have been offering assistance to many countries while their supposed earstwhile allies have done nothing, Italy was left to fend for itself as was Spain but are they not a key NATO ally ? Even NATO shrills, when Russian personnel arrived, did another of their Integrity Iniative propoganda pieces to claim Russian help was not right equipment, untrained people and just a smokescreen. Strange that it was the Italians from Premier down who openly called the shrills Liars and grateful of the assistance. Ireland had Chinese ambasssador make an open offer of help and Aer Lingus sent 60 flights to bring the offered equioment home, seems Ireland didn't trust others shipping it, their view seems to be borne out by French / German claims of equipment going missing. Even Peru obtaining PPE this weekend is refusing to say how delivered in case someone steps in to take its order. The idea that UK can take back its manufacturing is laughable, the "Key" food industry at the lowest level is people by immigrants paid minimum / living wage, UK is importing people to harvest produce because locals not able to do it. If people want to ask questions of Governments then starting with the complete incompetence of their own is a good start. The media hype of the 99 year old pensioner is a great smokescreen to hide behind. In going into ANY war the key requirement is to ensure the leadership is safe, under full protection and cannot be got near by an enemy. Hell UK failed in every single regard here because numerous members of the leadership team were absent at key moments. Looking closer to home for the abject failure will not happen because it is so much easier to jump on a Xenophobic rant inspried by the media / politicians covering up their own incomptencece at a specific race. The 1930's showed what happens here. |
Originally Posted by weemonkey
(Post 10753087)
As both myself and spouse are in the "recovery" phase of the Wuhan pestilence trust me when I say that the UK giving the CCP a reminder of the term "free navigation" is the very LEAST of options that are going through my mind at present. The world has to stand up to this regime, this regime that has unleashed such a catastrophic disease upon the world. The UK, the mother of all democracies, we should be in the forefront of RETRIBUTION. Or are you just another Kier Starmer/ Bill Gates. [ dodgy knight of the realm, multi millionaire and NOT a Dr] ?
You have a (cmon) a simple desire to blame someone for a personal misfortune - I have close friends and colleagues recovering from the disease (some mild, some serious) but I don't think they think President Xi is behind it all. |
It makes no sense to blame China for this disaster, there was plenty of coverage of the outbreak and the carnage it wrought, yet no one in authority had the strength or the wit to act.
The WHO would not declare a pandemic, too embarrassing, the US CDC said not to worry, plus the public does not need masks, to disguise the reality that there was a huge shortage of masks, even for doctors and nurses, plus testing was restricted, even though the CDC tests were late and ineffective because of contamination. The litany of errors is a long one, almost all of them here at home. So we need to get our act together first, before we start correcting others. |
Uk the mother of all democracies? really i thought that was Greece oddly enough.
And as for that phrase today what a joke , as has oft been said once said the UK is a democracy for a day once every five years. As for today we have an utterly corrupt print media owned by people whose family supported Hitler, allowed, the current PM to use their front page daily with no balancing articles, tax evaders and scurrilous billionaire media moguls pushing their own agenda And us standing up to China well two big problems there: 1 We could barely stand up to Taiwan these days especially on their doorstep 2 Morally, we have a few historical issues with China and forced supplies of opium, Shanghai , HK etc And as always more concerned with 'our place in the world' than with the welfare of our citizens |
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Originally Posted by Toadstool
(Post 10755357)
WM
firstly, I hope you and your spouse recover fully from this awful virus. My Ex wife is a nurse and caught this while treating people at hospital. She tells me that it was the most vile despicable thing that she has ever gone through. She rang the ambulance at one point due to difficulties in breathing. Triage was that extreme that they told her she didn't need an ambulance because she could say a sentence without coughing or fainting so wasn't a priority. I am wondering what you mean by standing up to China? What retribution are you thinking? Do you honestly think that China deliberately unleashed this upon the world while killing its own citizens; a biological MAD policy? Personally I don't think this is the case. Should you wish retribution, there are two options, IMHO, that could be used. Firstly we could hit them economically. This would involve a whole-world effort and agreement to hit China where it hurts and economically isolate China. Bring back all factories. Don't buy Chinese goods. Stop all trade whatsoever. Expel Chinese workers etc. This may bring China to the table with the idea of claiming some sort of compensation tied with guarantees that they stop whatever practices we wish for them to stop. On the other hand, with their backs to the wall, the Chinese may push back militarily or financially. Call in all debts etc. We could hit them militarily but this is something that I would not suggest. We would lose more than we would hope to gain. Is there any chance, once you get better, that you could give us an idea of what your idea of Retribution is please? I will admit that I posted in a somewhat tired and emotional state however.. "Retribution" a bit strong for some of you? Say that to the families of the 17,000 plus who have perished already in the UK. Some on here do seem to be detached from that awful growing figure. Racedo, pax Britannia et al please remind us of the 911 death toll.... Personally I think the CCP is on it's last legs. I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if in the coming year(s) they find their stranglehold on information removed by a constellation of 30k cubesats... And if their adventures of the far side of the moon (remember that) were to suddenly fall silent~~oh dear what a shame never mind.... |
Originally Posted by weemonkey
(Post 10759188)
Thank you for your good wishes we both are slowly recovering, fatigue is the main issue that and the cough...
I will admit that I posted in a somewhat tired and emotional state however.. "Retribution" a bit strong for some of you? Say that to the families of the 17,000 plus who have perished already in the UK. Some on here do seem to be detached from that awful growing figure. Racedo, pax Britannia et al please remind us of the 911 death toll.... Personally I think the CCP is on it's last legs. I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if in the coming year(s) they find their stranglehold on information removed by a constellation of 30k cubesats... And if their adventures of the far side of the moon (remember that) were to suddenly fall silent~~oh dear what a shame never mind.... One of my closest friends is a GP who gets suited up to see a patient but not sure they will have enough PPE next week but you know what they will still go, she has not seen her son in 5 weeks, my best mates daughter is doing minimum 80 hr weeks in Covid wards in London hoping if she gets it she will survive and a lot of Phillipino nurses I know either by name or as friends of friends who attend same church are on the front line at hospitals in Surrey. Yet somehow because we don't want blood spilled we are "detached". |
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