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tonker 5th Aug 2012 11:12

The US and A flag raising.
 
I'm sorry, this video has no relevance to military aviation except for one unique point. You lot have a good sense of humour.

Wait till end, and no Bruno doesn't come out naked riding a pony...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4e7_1344137075
It would be the American flag wouldn't it?:O

glad rag 5th Aug 2012 11:20

They get quite [rightly] upset about their flag touching the ground, history and all that....

Duncan D'Sorderlee 5th Aug 2012 11:46

Personally, I think that it is absolutely shocking that the crowd clapped and cheered. What must the winning American competitors have thought? Absolutely disgraceful.

Duncs:ok:

SirToppamHat 5th Aug 2012 11:47

At least it was the right flag this time!

tommee_hawk 5th Aug 2012 11:54

Flag drop
 
The crowd seem to be cheering Serena Williams for winning gold, not being offensive to the USA. This was a simple technical failure - don't "Daily Mail" it!

Load Toad 5th Aug 2012 12:26

God almighty - we get affronted over such trivial sh1te whilst there are big and real problems to go sort out.

BEagle 5th Aug 2012 12:37

Maybe it's an omen.......:uhoh:

But honestly, can't the sports day people even secure a flag to a hoist?

Pretty shambolic effort....

wokkamate 5th Aug 2012 12:56

oh dear oh dear. If you look closely at who is standing under the flags, I can only assume it was them who attached it......more Junior Service Olympic flag glory! ;)

Kitbag 5th Aug 2012 13:08

Always thought it was US of A. Perhaps thread starters should get their posts checked for error?

T.R Haychemu 5th Aug 2012 13:15

Perhaps Kitbag should watch some more films to pick up on the 'US and A' and Bruno references.......if you haven't got anything worthwhile to say...:rolleyes:

Kitbag 5th Aug 2012 13:16

Fella, you'll have to give me a steer on that, then.

racedo 5th Aug 2012 13:23


oh dear oh dear. If you look closely at who is standing under the flags, I can only assume it was them who attached it......more Junior Service Olympic flag glory!
I'm with you on that as have attended one of the events where medals given out and its the service who attach.

To be fair though they attach, not tie on so given wind conditions its not a shock.

BEagle 5th Aug 2012 13:24

Actually, I think you'll find that it was Sacha Baron Cohen as 'Borat' who first used the phrase 'U S and A' in the movie Borat – Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan.

Sacha Baron Cohen later starred (?) in the movie Brüno as a gay Austrian fashion journalist.....

Kitbag 5th Aug 2012 13:29

Thank you Beagle I understand now. Fortunately I shall always have something better to do than SBC.

Basil 5th Aug 2012 13:37

You couldn't make it up! Just as the National Anthem gets to " . . the flag was still there . . "

Without making excuses, I noticed that the wind eddies rotated the flag in the same direction around its supports several times. Perhaps a spiral hook device was thereby defeated?

Historical note: " . . the flag was still there . . " refers to an incident in the War of 1812 of which this year is the 200th anniversary.

SASless 5th Aug 2012 13:46

Seems Romney was far more correct in his comments than the Media and Brits have given him credit for!

Standard flag snap hooks as used on any Sail Boatt Signal Halyard would prevent that from happening.....and they cost a heap....like less than a Quid each for the pretty brass style.

I would not suggest a conspiracy....but would offer up incompetence as being the cause of the problem.

Maybe next time London gets the Olympics they can do a better job.

This one has sure been a series of cockups!

diginagain 5th Aug 2012 14:24


Originally Posted by SASless
This one has sure been a series of cockups!

...and Atlanta went ever so well, didn't it?

SASless 5th Aug 2012 14:31

I do believe the comparison has been to the Salt Lake City games actually.

Atlanta was doomed from the Git Go....if you have ever been to that fair city you would understand.

NutLoose 5th Aug 2012 14:34

All they have to tell the American public is the flag remained stationary, the UK simply rose up 50 odd feet.... They Swallowed what Bush told them, so this is an easy one to get past them.

downsizer 5th Aug 2012 15:35

This thread is typical of pprune these days. Fcuk all to do with mil aviation....

NutLoose 5th Aug 2012 15:47

I believe the winners sister once dated some guy in the US Navy who knew a pilot that once served. :E

wokkamate 5th Aug 2012 16:11

and there are a couple of aircrew in the flag party!

NutLoose 5th Aug 2012 17:11

Explains it falling off then :E

Basil 5th Aug 2012 17:19


This one has sure been a series of cockups!
Do you really think so?
I'm relieved that it's gone so well and Boris is going to be PM.

Last bit just joking ;)

NutLoose 5th Aug 2012 17:43

I just cannot believe how well we are doing in the rankings, and good on them.. Nice to see all the services along the course of the marathon applauding the athletes and seeming to be having a good time at all the events.

diginagain 5th Aug 2012 17:47

Spoiled only by the occasional injection of sour-grapes...

Roadster280 5th Aug 2012 17:49

Ahem. Well we got a nice new road out of it, that we're still paying for. And a nice new stadium for the Braves. And the university has some halls for its students that used to be the Olympic village.

But yeah, downtown ATL might as well be downtown Soweto with shiny buildings.

Jayand 5th Aug 2012 21:19

Jesus wept, somebody made a mistake! nobody died, get a grip it's just a flag.

Heathrow Harry 6th Aug 2012 07:21

they don't take that attitude in the USA

here in the UK we haul up a flag and then leave it to weather to a rag (look outside any big hotel)

In the USA it's sacred ..... they have Flag Laws etc etc

comes of being a newly independent nation I guess

salad-dodger 6th Aug 2012 08:00


comes of being a newly independent nation I guess
A minor correction

S-D

Jayand 6th Aug 2012 09:13

July the 4th.

salad-dodger 6th Aug 2012 10:25

6th August today according to my calendar.

SASless 6th Aug 2012 11:46

Just a Flag....to the Obama's and some others maybe....but not to Americans. We see it as the symbol of our Nation and remember how it represents a nation forged by combat against an oppressive government....a war that made us very free people and gave birth to a Nation founded upon Individual Liberty.

Nope....not just a piece of Cloth folks....we see things a bit differently on this side of the Salt Water Divide.

That being said...we would be just as aghast at what happened had it been the Nigerian flag....well not actually,,,but bothered to some extent as we should all be at such a thing happening. Cannot they get something this simple....done properly?

Thelma Viaduct 6th Aug 2012 12:06

US & A is correct, as is Micky Mouse.

PTT 6th Aug 2012 12:11


combat against an oppressive government
Terrorism, then? :E

salad-dodger 6th Aug 2012 12:19


That being said...we would be just as aghast at what happened had it been the Nigerian flag....well not actually,,,but bothered to some extent as we should all be at such a thing happening.
get down off your high horse fella. For whatever reason, it was unintentional. No one deliberately disrespected your flag, or others for that matter (N Korea), no one deliberately decided to drop your flag, ground it or anything else.

As to your final, typically daft, supercilious question:

Cannot they get something this simple....done properly?
If you were watching the Olympics you'd already know the answer :ugh:

S-D

BEagle 6th Aug 2012 13:24


In the USA it's sacred ..... they have Flag Laws etc etc
Indeed! At Barksdale AFB in 1979, we were rather surprised to see a whole row of Union Flags without the St. Patrick's cross - the pre-1801 version - and queried whether this was some questionable demonstration of pro-republican support for a united Ireland, or what.....

The 'conversation' took place after the Giant Voice banquet in the O Club dining room after copious libations, so perhaps wasn't really all that serious.

We agreed with a B-52 captain and his BN that UK hono(u)r would only be satisfied by the 'donation' of a suitable 'gizzit' - so one of those very posh Stars and Stripes jobs, complete with gold tassels and cords, mounted on a pole stuck up a golden duck's arse, found its way into the unsuspecting DetCo's golf bag, which we were taking back to the UK in our mighty Tin Triangle. But we had to assure the Buff chums that Old Glory would be treated respectfully.

And so it was.....until it was auctioned off at the 35 Sqn disbandment dinner at RAF Scampton some years late and £25 went into the bar kitty!

minigundiplomat 6th Aug 2012 13:29

If the UK is competing as Team GB, does that mean the yanks are competing as 'Team America'?

Heathrow Harry 6th Aug 2012 16:25

"Cannot they get something this simple....done properly? "

Pot - kettle -black

Atlanta’s flag insult shows how Canada forgives, inspires | SaportaReport

and that was the US marines - with the CANADIAN flag upside down............... :ok::ok:

Heathrow Harry 6th Aug 2012 16:27

"as auctioned off at the 35 Sqn disbandment dinner at RAF Scampton some years late and £25 went into the bar kitty!"

So THAT's where it came from - we turned it into a rug for the dog's basket.............


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