SNP propose 7 Airbases for Scotland post Independence
On the Big Debate on Scottish TV last night Nicola Sturgeon, Deputy Leader of the SNP, answered a question on Defence post independence and said that Scotland can be compared to Norway and will have a similar capability. She said Norway had 7 airbases and by inference suggested that was what Scotland would have.:ok:
Nominations for the bases - Looks like Ex RAF Machrihanish was a snip at £1, perhaps it was bought by a SNP sleeper!!;) HF |
I'd vote for:
Glenforsa (Isle of Mull) Strathaven East Lochlane Farm Hatton Viewfield Knockbain Farm Feshiebridge and the Free-Scottish Air Force shoukd operate their last great aircraft - the Scottish Aviation Bulldog! LJ :ok: |
Yeah, but what are they gonna operate after we take all our assets out?
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Buy up some old Hunters, and create a volunteer Scottish Air Force reserve!
Where can I apply!! |
Remember we get our 8 or 9% of military assets at the break up.
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All splendid Scottish choices, of course, and magnificent venues for the incipient Free Scottish Air Force. However, you do appear have omitted RAF Twatt (Orkney).
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Not when the Scottish Regiments are taken as a cost saving measure when Army2020 reports in 2 weeks...
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Think you are trying too hard to make that fit.
She never said Scotland would have anything like 7 bases, merely mentioned Norway's number purely as an example. Along with everything else last night the SNP were unclear and or unable to give the audience any facts about what they would actually do. Pure idealogical, selfish Nationalistic claptrap. Clouds and Cuckoo's spring to mind! |
Remember we get our 8 or 9% of military assets at the break up. |
On OECD GDP figures UK ranks about 16.
Scotland will rank about 6 and will be able to afford to defend itself. |
Yeah of course it can! Is that in the Euro or not? If it stillexists.
If you think oil will pay for it all then your mistaken, Norway so often used as an example of how the SNP will do business made a decision forty years ago when the North Sea oil boom began to take a 51% controlling stake in their oil and have been investing the profits heavily into their country ever since. Scotland is forty years too late and can't now catch up. |
Wot's that - 7 bases, one airframe a base!
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And to think you will need the euro to pay for all of this :p winner :ok:
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I have a cunning plan, we can sell them Simulators, ideal for RScotAF Kinloss, as they be Nimrods
BidSpotter.co.uk" - Lot Find |
Renfrew
I think you have been reading too much tripe from the fat salmon with a d. The figures you quote are for "per capita GDP", which is way different to GDP, and guess who comes top of the list? Luxembourg!!! There's a massive air force there isn't there? (unless of course you count the NATO owned E3As with Luxembourg registrations!). Norway comes 2nd in your list, followed by Switzerland...spot the common thread for using GDP per capita? Yes, small populations. The USA with it's massive industrial base and natural resources comes in 5th just ahead of Scotland. LJ |
You keep telling yourself that renfrew.
You might be surprised how quickly free prescriptions, no university fees, freezing council tax, real terms increases in health services and benefits associated with an unemployment rate that is currently the same as that for the whole of the UK all eat into your GDP. You might be able to afford to maintain a few infantry battalions and a couple of light aircraft at the start, but do you really think you could sustain any credible capability over the long term - operating costs, programme sustainment, personnel costs and recruitment and capability replacements? If you aren't part of NATO, you won't be able to claim for assistance there and I wouldn't bank on walking out of the UK and straight into the EU for assistance there either. |
Wee Eck will only require 2 heavy lift transport aircraft in his air force, one for himself and one for his ego.
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I order to be like Norway Scotland will have to raise tax. Lets compare to Norway - Beer £10 per pint ! That will go down well - not.
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Have I missed the point? Why does Scotland need an air force? Are there really foreign nations out there who covet midges, alcoholics and morbidly obese, grease eating lard monsters whose hobbies are sweating and fighting for breath?
Scotland arent deluded - they dont need to fear attack and they know it. It is beautiful, no doubt, but so is Siberia. Nobody clamouring to invade that. Scotland is safe, unless the ad fab cast need more alcoholics to join them. |
You would need to pay me more than £10 a pint to get me to drink Tennants.
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....morbidly obese, grease eating lard monsters whose hobbies are sweating and fighting for breath? The expensive irrelevance of the 'Scottish Parliament' is becoming a complete laughing stock. Time to tell Alexei that enough is enough, we don't mind your whisky, shortbread and kippers - but nonsenses such as Sco'ish independence, porridge, the wearing of kilts, haggis, 'old lang syne', tartan, the gibberish of Rab C Burns, deep-fried Mars bars, bagpipes and the SNP are nothing more than jokes intended to fleece tourists. And the joke is now over! |
I hope we spike the time gun on Edinburgh's castle before we pull out, we don't want them falling into another countries hands.
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Just popped in for a weekly sanity check and very encouraged to see the debate has not lowered in its intellectual level.
Long may it continue:ok: |
Maybe if Waste O'Space deep-fry some of their allegedly sh!te products then they'll make a sale post 2014?
http://www.digitaltoast.co.uk/travel.../FriedMars.jpg |
RNAS Twatt if you don't mind. HMS Tern!
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Is VAT applied to hot Mars Bars? Perhaps there is a tax loophole that we could fill? :ok:
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I think I'm starting to get the hang of pprune moral and political leaning, on this thread, plenty of down right rude remarks about the Scots (a component segment of the British population) because a Nationalist Political Party up there wants to give them the choice to opt out of the act of union (not a good idea anyway in my opinion), which was mutually agreed with the English in 1707 so that we became one.
Meanwhile, on the thread about Gay and Lesbian pride marches, not a single decipherable constructive critical comment is to be found, just lots of nice things? FB |
Are the rest of the United Kingdom being given a referendum to see if we want to let Scotland go? As it impinges on ALL the UK, I would think that necessary before The Act of Union is dissolved.
For my money, I can't see the point and I can't see it happening. Doc C (Edited for splingz) |
China has recently warned Australia about which side it wants to be on and that threat may have spurred the SNP into thinking about the future. So maybe they are planning to invite the ever friendly Chinese, or even the Russians, to the bases; in exchange, of course, for security against the Sassenachs!:E
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RNAS Twatt if you don't mind. HMS Tern! FYI all other posters - Deep fried Mars bars were Invented in a Chippy in Brum and I have yet to see a Chippy up here that sells them. Are the rest of the United Kingdom being given a referendum to see if we want to let Scotland go? As it impinges on ALL the UK, I would think that necessary before The Act of Union is dissolved. |
I have yet to see a Chippy up here that sells them. |
Strange isn't it, every time I see about Scottish Independance, a lot of nastiness comes out. It is almost as though a raw nerve has been bitten through. I don't blame the Scot's for seeking independence if their closest Cousins treat them with such disregard & loathing.
You still expect the Scot's to sing the National Anthem which incedently, contains the words: MAY SHE LIKE A TORRENT RUSH, REBELIOUS SCOTS TO CRUSH, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN Good one England, yet another of the many Countries that you have alienated because of your sheer arrorance & you still can't understand why we keep getting "nul point"" at the Eurovision Contest ! |
Quote: RNAS Twatt if you don't mind. HMS Tern! ...A lthough if the McNazi's get there way it would be something like RScotMB Twatt! FYI all other posters - Deep fried Mars bars were Invented in a Chippy in Brum and I have yet to see a Chippy up here that sells them. Quote: Are the rest of the United Kingdom being given a referendum to see if we want to let Scotland go? As it impinges on ALL the UK, I would think that necessary before The Act of Union is dissolved. Why? - Its a matter for the People who reside and are on the voters role in Scotland. Maybe the English should have a referendum on whether They'd like to stay in union with Scotland After all it was imposed upon them by a Scottish King - Something that the "Patriots" neglect to tell you when you hear their Drunken Rhetoric in the Boozers Here in Auld Reekie- W'nkers tae a Man and Woman! I can't wait for this stupid referendum to be over with, hopefully with the Scots having seen sense and rejected Wee Eck's Wee Empire proposal and can get back to just gurning about what goes on at Westminster no matter what, while the English can get back to clumsy patronising attempts to be nice, rather than open hostility because the Scots have had the brass neck to encourage wee eck!:ok: FB:) |
BEagle
...are nothing more than jokes intended to fleece tourists. |
VIProds,
I don't blame the Scot's for seeking independence if their closest Cousins treat them with such disregard & loathing. A lot of the banter was good natured, but equally, a lot wasn't. You only have to see the pitched battles and bigotry at some of the 'Old Firm' sporting events to see the depth of hatred some sections of the population have for each other, never mind the Sassenachs. I have Scottish friends who would rather die than wear a blue tee shirt and I'm sure the same can be said for the 'other' side. If they want independance, I say give it to them and hopefully they can move on and so can the rest of the UK. |
The thing is, most of us 'Jockistanis' are content to receive Westminster subsidies that allow us to have free prescription, care for elderly, university education, passage over bridges etc that we would be unable to afford if we split from those in south Scotlandshire. Furthermore we have delighted in having Scots at the forefront of government and banking that have caused the current financial disaster. Most of us are on the buroo and so barely affected. Mostly though, we like discussion of Braveheart and what Scandinavian countries - with extortionate taxes/prices for alcohol - get up to becauses it causes our Engerlish brethern to get so very very upset by it. And there is nothing that we enjoy more than upsetting the English - except, of course, Mrs D'Sorderlee and her fine English family!
Duncs:ok: |
Originally Posted by VIProds
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Strange isn't it, every time I see about Scottish Independance, a lot of nastiness comes out. It is almost as though a raw nerve has been bitten through. I don't blame the Scot's for seeking independence if their closest Cousins treat them with such disregard & loathing.
You still expect the Scot's to sing the National Anthem which incedently, contains the words: MAY SHE LIKE A TORRENT RUSH, REBELIOUS SCOTS TO CRUSH, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN Good one England, yet another of the many Countries that you have alienated because of your sheer arrorance & you still can't understand why we keep getting "nul point"" at the Eurovision Contest ! 2. The National Anthem does not contain those words, and Scots aren't therefore expected to sing them. They appear in an entirely unofficial fourth verse which seems to have been penned at the time of the Jacobite rebellion, but which appears not to have been widely known until mentioned in an article on the National Anthem in a magazine in the 1820s or 1830s (I think the latter, probably at the time the words changed to 'the Queen' when Victoria became the first female monarch for over 100 years). The official national anthem ends with verse three (the 'choicest gifts in store' verse in the unlikely event that any Ppruners are unaware :E). But apart from the fact that those lines don't refer to the monarch, aren't in the anthem and therefore aren't expected to be sung by anyone of a Scottish disposition, yes, it is a disgrace... |
VIProds
Good one England, yet another of the many Countries that you have alienated because of your sheer arrorance & you still can't understand why we keep getting "nul point"" at the Eurovision Contest ! |
Surplus Very true, you might have hit on something. Maybe we should stop talking about a referendum on independence & instead have a referendum on banning football !! From what you say, it could solve a lot of our problems.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...cons/icon7.gif
Archimedes I bow to your superior knowledge. I read about it years ago & it has obviously changed with time (it's an age thing). RP I am Scottish, so I said "why we keep getting nul point". It's by association. |
Good one England, yet another of the many Countries that you have alienated because of your sheer arrorance & you still can't understand why we keep getting "nul point"" at the Eurovision Contest ! a. English, b. Not 'arrorant', c. Wise enough to know why every country loathes 'us'. The United Kingdom entry has in fact won several times in the recent past so presumeably English 'arrogance' alienating other countries is a fairly modern event. As opposed to the ever larger numbers of countries not actually in Europe being permitted to enter the competition and voting for each other in their cliques. |
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