AFPRB 2012
 

When you wish upon a star...

:hmm:

"And this years pay award is........................................" Ta dah!!!!


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Almost forgot, because stuff is more expensive this year we have decided to put up all housing charges.
Oh and we are going to lower all rates for allowances as you don't need the extra money. That's before we make you work as cheap labour security guards at the Olympics.

Apart from that I think the AFPRB has looked after your interests well in this years pay review.

Over the last couple of years the AFPRB headline % increase recommendations have been very close to the headline % specified in the Civil Service Pay remit document issued by HMT. Public Sector Pay - HM Treasury. The Civil Service Pay remit hasn't been issued yet and they are issued at the same time. There is currently a rumour that there is some debate between HMT and Cabinet Office about the Chancellors announcement of 1% increase for the public sector actually means. BBC News - Osborne confirms pay and jobs pain as growth slows Until that's resolved I don't beleive we'll see the AFPRB report. I could bore your with the details of the rumour however I won't.

Surely the AFPRB will have to take a cut to pensions into account and therefore recommend a significantly increased pay deal.

No?:sad:

Really?:ooh:

How come?:confused:

Oh, I see.:hmm:

I think that the minister describing the AFPRB as "independent" is stretching credibility somewhat....

It will be interesting to see if any members of AFPRB resign on principle. I believe in their last report they said they were "disappointed" at being told what to recommend (0%) for two years, and looked forward to returning to business as usual. However, they have now been told what to recommend for 4 years in a row, 2 years of 0% and two years of 1% or less. One has to question what is the point of the AFRPB (yes, I know they also look at allowances, charges, specialist pay, etc).


Having said that, even in the "good" old years you will find in the first paragraph of an AFPRB report the statement of the remit they have been given, which includes the government inflation target, and how much MOD can afford. Hence they are effectively told the maximum they can recommend (they only recommend, the government awards) from the start, hence they are never truly independent.

But will any of them resign - somehow I doubt it! :=

The AFPRB is still required. Who else would recommend increases to accommodation and food charges during a pay freeze? :ugh:

Remembering of course that a 1% rise in the pay bill doesn't mean that all will get 1%. On the Defence Intranet answering a question that was posed to the Board PUS indicated that some may get more than 1% - others less (or no rise at all). It all depends on where skill shortages etc are!! To widen the scope a little various contractors on PAYD units are starting to make noises as the price that they are allowed to charge for the core menu is fixed by the AFPRB and so during the last year they have been unable to raise prices for food despite inflationary pressues in the retail market (as anyone shopping in their local Waitrose/M&S/Asda etc can confirm). Wait Out

PAYD at a Lincolnshire base has resulted in a price increase for everything except the core menu since it was introduced in November. Standard of the core menu has reduced drastically in the same period.

You know, I, nor anyone else, didn't see that coming! PAYD, what a monumental failure...

Sorry, back to AFPRB...

We are all in this together
 

Despite being on a pay freeze, it appears other people in the public sector have found a way to still receive pay increases once they reach the top of their pay band. From the Civil Service jobs website link - https://jobsfiles.civilservice.gov.u...OGJhODk4NjllMA==:

Pay progression

Existing staff

Staff who meet the required performance standard progress to the target rate by means of annual pay award increases effective from 1 July. Pay ranges consist of milestones each of which is worth an increase of 1.02% over the milestone before.

Staff who meet the required standards will progress by a minimum of three milestones a year until they reach the target rate.

The target rate is the maximum consolidated pay point. Any increases above target rate will be paid as a non-consolidated, non pensionable bonus. Staff on the target rate who have met the required standards will move on to the new target rate and can receive a maximum payment of the value three milestones above the target rate as non-consolidated, non-pensionable bonus.

New Entrants

New entrants are eligible to receive pay progression subject to having met the required standards. They receive a pro-rata pay award according to their length of service.

• Those employed for at least eight months on 1 July will progress by three milestones
• Those employed for more than four, but less than eight, months on 1 July will progress by 2 milestones
• Those employed for up to four months on 1 July will progress by 1 milestone

I know the precedent was set previously but it is a shame that service personnel will get less then 28 days notice of their rent and other charges for the coming financial year.

Civilian rents cannot be adjusted in this way but I guess that this will be another example where the 'covenant' means we are disadvantaged compared to the rest of the country. Is anyone keeping a list of the covenant promises broken, perhaps as bingo cards in a manner to keep us amused?

Performance related pay for JPA auditors?........

Disgusting.

It's normally released on or around the 21st March, going from previous years.

My bet is on 1% across the board, with above inflation level increases in food and accommodation charges....

Aren't we still on year 2 of the pay freeze, or have I miscounted? I thought the 1% rise (or 1% cut if they manage to get inflation back to 2%) was Apr 13 onwards?

My understanding too.

I appear to have been wishing the years away, you are quite correct as we did get a raise in 2010.

The wheel does indeed turn full circle; the joys of the early/mid 1970's UK (electricity cuts/3 day week/Public sector strikes) included meagre annual military pay rises which were then obliterated by increased accomodation/food charges, often resulting in a net loss to the individual, compared to the previous year.

When Mrs Thatcher won the 1979 General Election, I seem to recall that we had x2 pay rises in one year; she was HM Forces pin-up girl for a while.........

HB

The original question mentions the Military Covenant.

The Government has established a committee to look into implementation. The Vice-Chair (at least) has e-mailed his constituents seeking input.

I answered (in a supportive manner) but wondered if all MPs have sought opinion, just those on the committee, or just mine?

Just seen the signal, no pay rise for me and accomodation charges are going up, also got a letter stating that from Apr the LOA is reducing and the FFIR rate will remain at 1.14Euro to the GBP, even though the exchange rate has been well above that for at least 3 months. Now looking for the sugar that should have coated the pill........