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Mike-Bracknell 8th Nov 2011 12:16

Another Red Arrows mishap? (merged)
 
BBC reporting something's occurred at Scampton. No more info yet.

airborne_artist 8th Nov 2011 12:18

Red Arrows "incident" at Scampton
 
An investigation is said to be taking place. BBCi link

"The Ministry of Defence has confirmed there has been an incident involving a Red Arrows jet at RAF Scampton in Lincolnshire.

The details of what has happened are not yet known, but the MoD said it was investigating."

ATCNetwork 8th Nov 2011 12:33

from BBC:

Red Arrows 'incident' at RAF Scampton investigated The Ministry of Defence has confirmed there has been an incident involving a Red Arrows jet at RAF Scampton in Lincolnshire.

The details of what has happened are not yet known, but the MoD said it was investigating.

It comes a few months after Red Arrows pilot Jon Egging died when his plane crashed during a display near Bournemouth Airport.

The RAF aerobatic team are based at Scampton.

Trinity 09L 8th Nov 2011 12:49

BBC quote: serious incident on the ground, pilot to hospital

cazatou 8th Nov 2011 12:50

BBC reporting that a Pilot has been taken to Hospital - no further details.

Civil Police in attendance.

BOAC 8th Nov 2011 13:01

From Sky News
"Unconfirmed reports state there could have been a problem with an ejector seat."

Airbus Unplugged 8th Nov 2011 13:04

Gotta be something pyrotechnic ? MDC ?

Jamie-Southend 8th Nov 2011 13:20

already being discussed

http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...-scampton.html

cazatou 8th Nov 2011 13:36

BBC now reporting the Pilot has been "Seriously Injured".

wokkamate 8th Nov 2011 13:41

3 threads on it now! Apologies from me for starting another one without checking.

I hope to god that it is not another fatality. Classic irresponsible reporting by 'This Is Lincolnshire' though.

andyy 8th Nov 2011 13:53

"This is Lincolnshire" has changed its reporting to "injured" now but still no other details.

500N 8th Nov 2011 14:33

Not good. A couple of photos and a bit of information here.

Red Arrows pilot rushed to hospital with life-threatening injuries after 'ejector seat accident' | Mail Online

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Arkroyal 8th Nov 2011 14:46

Just shown on bbc news chanel, looks like jet parked with seat tube sticking up from cockpit.

couldn't see if canopy open or closed.

Let's hope this turns out well.

just re shown picture. front cockpit seat has fired. canopy closed, perspex looks shattered by MDC.

Hippy 8th Nov 2011 14:47

Pictures on BBC news of front bang seat having been banged on the line. Canopy closed.
BBC News - Red Arrows pilot seriously injured at RAF Scampton

SLLC 8th Nov 2011 15:25

Thoughts are with absolutely everyone at Scampton whatever the facts are.

Jamie-Southend 8th Nov 2011 15:31

Dreadful year for the Reds, thoughts are with those at Scampton.

green granite 8th Nov 2011 15:35

Hmmmmm there seems to be something about Hawks and ejector seats lately.
Hope the pilot's not too badly hurt.

Incidentally why are the civil police involved? They seem to want to poke their snouts into everything nowadays.

Trim Stab 8th Nov 2011 15:36


Civil Police in attendance.
Is that normal at such an early stage of the incident? Or just journos mis-identifying a modplod car?

"This is Lincolnshire" now saying the parachute failed to deploy.
Pilot seriously injured in Red Arrows incident at RAF Scampton | This is Lincolnshire

LateArmLive 8th Nov 2011 15:38

For goodness sake - please stick to confirmed facts. This is bad enough for all invovled without speculation.

Jonty 8th Nov 2011 15:57

Looking at the BBC pictures it look like the canopy is closed and the rocket tube is poking through.

Hope the Pilot is ok.

RotaryWingLass 8th Nov 2011 15:59

"For goodness sake - please stick to confirmed facts. This is bad enough for all invovled without speculation."

Completely agree..

XV490 8th Nov 2011 16:08


Well i can not beleive it how very sad to be healing after one loss and 3 months later here we are again .

After doing some looking about ive found this i just hope its not true http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/sowee.gif .

OK, i will put this up but this is what ive been told from a friend at scampton but it is NOT confirmed

while taxing a seat went off but the MDC did not blow the canopy, pilot was rushed via air ambulance to Lincoln but later pronounced dead. this is what the personel at scampton have been told
Wholly insensitive as well as illiterate.

Erksome Erk 8th Nov 2011 16:15


Civil Police in attendance.
They are/were

Lincolnshire Police - 08/11/2011 - Incident at R.A.F. Scampton

Swerve550 8th Nov 2011 16:16

Aside from Vulcan's wild speculations (note, never speculate on whether or not someone is alive or dead, what if someone here knows this person?) why were the civillian police called? Is accident investigation 'on-base' not carried out by the MoD?

Swerve

30mRad 8th Nov 2011 16:24

The civil police have primacy in all matters. Usually however they cede that to the military police. They usually only retain primacy when there may be criminal issues - not for one minute suggesting that is the case here but the Puma at Catterick and the GR4 flight test from Marham are examples where the investigation revealed possible criminal issues and so civil police maintained primacy.

At this stage it is wrong to speculate and comment with ill informed data - it will ony serve to upset and annoy.

Thoughts and prayers with you, the team, friends who know you and your family.

Maxibon 8th Nov 2011 16:25

You can't help yourselves, can you? I heard this; this is what a mate said; must be MDC... etc etc.

Shut the heck up and wait for official confirmation. These threads are so unbelievably tedious.

endplay 8th Nov 2011 16:28

Just been announced by BBC that the pilot has died. RIP Sir

RotaryWingLass 8th Nov 2011 16:28

BBC just confirmed the pilot has died in hospital. Sad news.

Tonkenna 8th Nov 2011 16:31

This is terribly sad news... my thoughts are with the family and friends.

RIP

just another jocky 8th Nov 2011 16:32

Thoughts, as ever, with family and friends.

talkpedlar 8th Nov 2011 16:36

So sorry..
 
RIP Sir or m'am. Sincere hopes that friends and the Red family pull through this. Unspeakably sad.

Albert Another 8th Nov 2011 16:37

My thoughts to all those involved.

soddim 8th Nov 2011 16:37

BBC News - Red Arrows pilot dies after incident at RAF Scampton

Sad Sad day.

AGS Man 8th Nov 2011 16:38

Dreadful news. My thoughts to family and all at Scampton. RIP Sir

Gericault 8th Nov 2011 16:38

A terribly sad day. RIP. Our thoughts are with family, friends and colleagues.

Swerve550 8th Nov 2011 16:39

This is awful.

jackieofalltrades 8th Nov 2011 16:41

Ditto to the above condolences. A sad loss. Thoughts are with his family and friends.

R.I.P.

4015 8th Nov 2011 16:45

Horrible news. My sincere thoughts with the family, including the red family.

Taildragger 8th Nov 2011 16:46

Have just seen a senior officer (Group Captain) formally announcing this dreadful event. The ramifications for the Team will be tremendous in many many ways No names given as the family have requested a period of grace to try and come to termas with this awful news. The team's professionalism will now be sorely tested, but I have no doubt that they will deal with it in their own way. One question, I see that the team website shows Kirsty Stewart as the Team Manager. Is this Kirsty Moore.?

Tashengurt 8th Nov 2011 16:47

Condolences to all involved.


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