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Lima Juliet 11th Oct 2011 22:55

MPs stressed out over expenses
 
The poor little lambs...


The new, tougher expenses regime is damaging MPs' "mental wellbeing", the doctor who looks after them has said.

Dr Ira Madan told a committee looking into the system that its "frustrations and difficulties" had increased workloads but decreased rewards.

She also said MPs were tired of being the butt of jokes about their expenses.
I believe we should make them come in at 0600hrs for met, plan a 4 ship OCA mission, fly it and then debrief it - then do the expenses claim on the piece of sh!t they call JPA having been in work 8 hours.

Sympathy? Yeh, it's between sh!t and syphalis...:*

LJ

Seldomfitforpurpose 11th Oct 2011 22:57

Do you find JPA fit for purpose and easy to use :confused:

Lima Juliet 11th Oct 2011 23:01

.........nope......:confused:

ShyTorque 11th Oct 2011 23:05

Seldom FFP?

Dengue_Dude 12th Oct 2011 11:38

Your heart just leaks purple p1ss for them doesn't it?

They're probably struggling because they're not sure which scams are still goers and which are not.

But . . . we misjudge them. They only wish to serve, to do what little they can to make this a better place and have just the odd trip with their boyfriend . . .

higthepig 12th Oct 2011 11:59


Dr Ira Madan told a committee looking into the system that its "frustrations and difficulties" had increased workloads but decreased rewards.
And what rewards are they entitled too? I am out of pocket now for each temp duty away, where in JPA is the rewards box, I'm not ticking it obviously.

airborne_artist 12th Oct 2011 12:24

Hig - you've been looking in the wrong place - but here it is just for you:

http://www.eventelephant.com/uploade.../Attendee2.jpg

higthepig 12th Oct 2011 14:03

AA,
Thank you.

All my claims have been audited since the I tried to blag a floating duck island off incidentals, I will look more closely for the check box next time.;)

Vim_Fuego 12th Oct 2011 15:19

Well this sorted out my until now anger-free day...Poor lambkins.

What the Fug 12th Oct 2011 15:46

Sorry but when they learn to behave like adults they will be treated like adults, untill that time they must suck it up.

Tankertrashnav 12th Oct 2011 19:58


I believe we should make them come in at 0600hrs for met,
0600? - You were lucky!

When I were a lad on t'tankers, when we 'ad a trail on, by six o'clock in't morning we'd been in t'ops block for nigh on two hours slavin over an 'ot flight plan.

0600? Luxury! We dreamt about 0600 starts ;)

goudie 12th Oct 2011 20:48


by six o'clock in't morning we'd been in t'ops block for nigh on two hours slavin over an 'ot flight plan.
Aye and poor buggers like me 'ad been slavin' away two hours afore that, getting soddin' aircraft ready. We loved 6 o'clock in't morning. It were coming oop fur dinnertime for the poor bloody lineys.;)

ACW599 12th Oct 2011 22:06

>We loved 6 o'clock in't morning. It were coming oop fur dinnertime for the poor bloody lineys<

Dinnertime? Luxury! We 'ad to do 48hr straight shifts sweepin' t' runway on one slice o' black pudding and a pint of waste AVTUR each.

cribble 12th Oct 2011 22:24

Waste AVTUR? Luxury...we 'ad to make do wi' Aussy beer t' wash down OUR black puddin.

Vim_Fuego 13th Oct 2011 10:25

Right.............I had to get up 6 hours before I went to bed, fix my own aircraft, file t'flight plan, produce my own fuel by lactating avtur, Lick t'runway clean wit tongue then push t'aircraft into t'sky before leaping on't board...and after all that t'nav would still not make a pot of t'tea!

Biggus 13th Oct 2011 11:16

While I have no wish to follow on the "4 yorkshiremen" sketch and try to "top" anyone else, I can, in total honesty, say that I once, due a shortage of personnel, had to work, along with a few others, a shift pattern that consisted of 72hrs on, 72hrs off.

This went on for about 6 weeks until the manning situation improved.

I'm not saying it was hard, or that I didn't sleep at all during my 72hrs "on", but I am saying that it actually happened......

Tell youngsters that today - and they won't believe you...!

Dengue_Dude 13th Oct 2011 11:30


Waste AVTUR? Luxury...we 'ad to make do wi' Aussy beer t' wash down OUR black puddin.
Oh, that really is beyond the pale (ale?) You poor sods. That's what most Aussies are doing over here - trying to get a decent pint of the dark and crisps that taste like Cheese and Onion.

bobward 13th Oct 2011 11:32

Did you really mean to say that?
 
What the fug,
Bearing in mind the certain allegations flying around, the latter end of your post might be misconstrued.....:eek::=

SRENNAPS 13th Oct 2011 11:39


a shift pattern that consisted of 72hrs on, 72hrs off.
Maybe I am being stupid and/or your post portrays a more simplistic view of what actually happened to require a 72 on/72 off shift pattern, but as you were able to operate two shifts what would have been the difference in operating 24 on/24 off or even 12 on/12 off?? You would have had the same number of people!

As I said I might not be seeing the full picture here, so apologies.

As an aside, I used to love my 24 on/24 off Nuke QRA shifts and even better Deci shifts which we also used in the Gulf, Nellis and Alaska. We did try them once in Goose Bay but that was too hard.

St Johns Wort 13th Oct 2011 12:13

How long before the first MP suffers Expenses Claim induced PTSD? Its got to be worth a claim!:)


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