I posted the original thread a few weeks ago when I heard it through the office grapevine, but the 2 characters probably slapped a superinjunction on the subject...and the thread disappeared quicker than a doughnut on John Prescott's plate.

I have it on good authority that they are quite senior officers...!:=

Better not say too much before I get arrested or my internet get discon....

shirley not people desperate to get some sorties in for their CV or a Campaign Medal??

I can honestly say that some of the best 'relaxation evenings' I've ever had have been when on 'Ops'! As I recall, getting sent home from Det is usually a pre-requisite for promotion if you're operational aircrew :D

It's pretty unusual to get deployed anywhere that you can have a drink these days so I'm glad to see that the chaps have a chance for the occasional night down the 'Squario'.

I never . . . NEVER drank on ops (and only tea when ON ops).

Signed

DD (alias Pinnochio)

According to the link:

Gerry Connelly, a retired Air Vice Marshal and former commander at RAF Wittering in Cambridgeshire,

The only thing missing is it didn't say if he was a former . . . pilot :}

Well he was.

Whatever punishment or 'administrative action' is taken will pale into insignificance compared with being on "Lads' Review" for having a temporary alcohol ban imposed at Gioia del Colle. That was a ridiculous knee-jerk reaction and an insult to all the other mates.

How do you know?




Did he tell you?:E

Dirty Linen in Public.
 

If there's any 'conduct prejudicial' here it's the individual who decided to make sure it hit the headlines worldwide and embarrassed the RAF. An on site bollocking with an unwritten withdrawal of privileges would have been much more useful - and effective. Just like it used to be.

You sound like the missus -- :ooh:

As a smiling PLAAF friend said to me today, 'It's good to see the way things are progressing in the West'.

Sound like perfect candidates to send to the Falklands. Absolutely no chance of drinking in that 'operational theatre' ;)

Their names are on T w i t t e r:ooh:

Write up in the Sun:

RAF Top Guns found in gutter at 6am | The Sun |News|Campaigns|Our Boys

If you can get past the typos in the Sun ...

"RAF's Cyrpus HQ Akrotiri"

"... the limit to which crews should abide, but Torando and Typhoon pilots in Gioia have a reputation for hard-partying"

Almost up to Grauniad standards

The groundcrew are a little quick to take the morale highground, I know of plenty that have taxed the diplomacy of many a Detco before now. However, there is no excuse for what happened, especially whilst so many are deployed on ops where there isn't even a two can rule - written or unwritten.

I do not know the details of this charge, so my comments are purely mine based on heresay. I don't subscibe to the two major social networking sites because I find them rather peurile and for me irrelevent. So a couple of mates got drunk whilst in Italy. Did the flying (Op) programme suffer? Did they fly whilst drunk? If the answer is no to both then they get a serious hats on interview with a suitable senior officer. If the answer is not no, then they are grounded pending a full but closed military enquiry. The press are told (if considered necessary) that the matter has been or is being dealt with and it is almost certain that the two mates would not be so daft in future.
RLE . Give me stength!....We've all stood at the graves of mates (in my case 20+ before I'd completed training.) who have been killed for a variety of reasons mostly unknown. If you are aircrew please tell me that you fly alone.
I have read the "Sun" report and think that a KneeJerk action has been taken by the Commander but it seems typical of this modern RAF..

Thank God some of you 'fun police' weren't about 15 years ago or we'd never have got anything done or had any fun whilst doing it...:rolleyes:
They're on Ops, they let their hair down and unwound. The only problem was getting caught doing so. Surely someone should have been watching their backs, and someone else should possibly have jumped in to help out the 'Coningsby two'. As for ground crew being pissed off...? Rough with the smooth.:ok:

So the facts are

2 Typhoon pilots went out for the night in Italy, were found by a local in a very drunk state, and were then sent home to UK.

Did anyone get hurt? No.
Did a Typhoon mission the next day get cancelled? No
Are they pilots involved in alot of trouble? Yes
Is there a no drinking rule enforced now due to their actions? Yes
Did the officer who enforced that knee jerk 'no drinking for anyone' reaction nearly get thrown out of the RAF for similar behaviour going through flying training? Yes

PSAB Gulf war 2003 no drinking rule - do you really think that happened? Damn stuff was everywhere.

Seen worse things happen on every op i have been on, and no i dont drink and fly but i don't live in la la land either.

Training Risky

Saw your spiteful little post naming those involved - what a decent mate you must be.