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TBM-Legend 7th Jun 2011 12:42

PS: Don't mention Israel gunning down 20-30 unarmed civilians.

LFFC 26th Oct 2011 18:47

Well, it looks like the Apache will need quite a bit of work doing to it before it embarks again. I wonder if it's all affordable?

UK eyes Apache modifications after Libyan experience - 26 Oct 2011


It also exposed several shortcomings of the Apache for embarked operations, such as its current main rotor brake design, which was not strong enough under high wind conditions.

Crews also expressed concerns about the likely outcome of any ditching event, should they be unable to make it back to the ship.

"We need some sort of a flotation device, as the aircraft would sink like a stone," Tennant said. A new canopy jettison system would also be required, he said, as the current design could have fatal consequences if used once the aircraft is in the water.

The addition of an I-band transponder would aid crews' ability to navigate back to a ship, while an improvement is also needed in battery life to increase flight time from just 6min in the event of a total electrical system failure.

Biggus 26th Oct 2011 20:29

Stand by for a comment from, "you know who", he won't be able to resist




25 missions (40 planned) in 3 months if the article is to believed, that doesn't seem like a high utilization rate?

Standing by to be corrected/flamed!

BossEyed 27th Oct 2011 11:29

LFFC, all of the issues mentioned in that Flight story were known about in MOD years before the Libyan deployment.

RileyDove 27th Oct 2011 19:02

My main concern is corrosion. The Apache is simply not designed to be at sea and has many places where salt will gather and cause damage. The only thing the Army should be looking at is the U.S Block 3 modifications.


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