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Just This Once... 3rd May 2011 18:37

I've no idea why it crashed.

Anyway these photos will be a good teaching aid for those interested in how many random wires you can get strung across one of these compounds.

Boy_From_Brazil 3rd May 2011 18:37

An off the wall thought....is it a similar type to what the Pakistani military fly?

Tiger Tales 3rd May 2011 19:23

It's (was) Airwolf! :ok:

Tashengurt 3rd May 2011 20:15

Ooooh! Knew it wasn't a bloody Blackhawk!

parabellum 3rd May 2011 22:55

In one of the pictures of the compound they show a power pylon quite close, I imagine there were quite a few wires around but equally I imagine they have onboard kit to detect that sort of thing. Are the demolition charges, sans primer, in place before the Op starts, I wonder?

500N 3rd May 2011 23:35

"In one of the pictures of the compound they show a power pylon quite close, I imagine there were quite a few wires around but equally I imagine they have onboard kit to detect that sort of thing. Are the demolition charges, sans primer, in place before the Op starts, I wonder?"


They knew every inch of the compound and surrounding area before they went in as would be expected.


"Are the demolition charges, sans primer, in place before the Op starts, I wonder?""

As in carried on board for use on taking down the Pylons by Raid people or placed beforehand by others on the ground ?

0497 4th May 2011 02:16

A little too aggressive with the SF insertion

On land

parabellum 4th May 2011 02:19

Sorry, I meant the charges that are used to destroy the helicopter, after it has crashed.

500N 4th May 2011 02:24

"Sorry, I meant the charges that are used to destroy the helicopter, after it has crashed."

Depending on what was used, nothing dangerous about taking explosive charges on MILITARY aircraft as long as the det is kept well away as well as protecting them from being hit hard by accident and the rules are followed.

0497 4th May 2011 02:29

Pakistani tv footage showed a raging fire in the compound. Daytime photos showed black smoke marks on the perimeter walls but no explosive scars..

So probably incendiary charges.

Buster Hyman 4th May 2011 03:36

I wont believe it was destroyed until I see the insurance claim!

***

This was fun reading! :p

Bin Laden and the SEAL's secret stealth helicopter

Heliringer 4th May 2011 10:31

The team would probably have used White Phosphorus grenades to destroy the Helicopter.

forget 4th May 2011 10:48

Don't shoot the messenger but 'An IT consultant taking a break from the rat-race by hiding in the mountains with his laptops' says it all happened on the 1st of May. Read from the bottom up. Note the date. Anyone explain?

Twitter

ReallyVirtual Sohaib Athar
A huge window shaking bang here in Abbottabad Cantt. (Cantonment ?) I hope its not the start of something nasty :-S
1 May

ReallyVirtual Sohaib Athar
Go away helicopter - before I take out my giant swatter :-/
1 May

ReallyVirtual Sohaib Athar
Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event).
1 May

adr 4th May 2011 14:46

This was fun reading!

Bin Laden and the SEAL's secret stealth helicopter

Yeah, but how did the author know about that field behind my house? :ooh:

adr

Allanneil 5th May 2011 00:44

the osama wreckage
 
someone should look at the current reuters news site, the wreckage is more uncovered. looks oddly like a drone??

ralphmalph 5th May 2011 00:51

The team would probably have used White Phosphorus grenades to destroy the Helicopter.

Love it.

White Phos...the universal explosive capable of destroying an aircraft. Or B!

beachbunny 5th May 2011 01:17

Power settling
 
I would say there's a very good chance it was Power Settling, if they were hovering fairly low, inside a high walled complex. The walls would prevent the downwash from dispersing, causing more than normal to rise around the helicopter, and then create a downward vortex in which he was trying to hover. Reports said "He appeared to lose lift".
The very scenario I was taught to avoid.

back end o' the bus 5th May 2011 01:48

Thanks BB
 
I feel we are nearer the truth......its out there!!

Now all that we need to do is get that damn photo....sort out the conspiracy over the moon landings and JFK....then all in the world will be OK.....apart from JPA of course..

Any other comments from our Rotary bretheren?????:ok:

TheWizard 5th May 2011 08:18

I think we can categorically say that it didn't 'stall' if that helps!!

27mm 5th May 2011 08:46

From Aviation safety.net:

A Pakistani army helicopter was feared shot down in northern Pakistan early Monday morning, causing at least one dead and two injured, local media reported.
According to local Urdu TV channel Geo, the incident took place at about 1:20 a.m. local time in a hilly area of Abbotabad, a small town lying some 60 kilometers north of the country's capital city Islamabad.
The report quoted eyewitnesses as saying that heavy firings were heard before the helicopter fell down. It is not known how many people were aboard the plane which is reportedly capable of carrying eight to 10 persons.
One local Urdu TV channel Ary reported that at least one person was killed and another two were injured in the crash.
Rescue team has rushed to the site shortly after the crash was reported.

Any connection??:cool:


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