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moggiee 21st Apr 2011 19:26


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 6404858)
Ah the mighty Islander.... take the windows out and replace them with Chicken wire, chuck a bit of sawdust about and one would have a descent, if a bit tight Rabbit hutch. :p

Would that be an emergency descent? Bit breezy with the windows removed!

trex450 21st Apr 2011 19:42

co-pilot in an Islander??

davaar lad 21st Apr 2011 21:44

Can I just say how effective the heater was..so the screen is all iced up, you can't see much, so you turn on the screen de icer and it melts the ice. It then becomes a swirling mass of slushy bubbles.
Hmm designed by British Industry.:ugh:

Exascot 23rd Apr 2011 07:57

Slightly off thread but on a public passenger carrying Islander is a u/s flap indicator and/or one u/s fuel gauge permissible? For the record it was Africa. I should know, I have many hours on them, but time has affected the memory.

aw ditor 23rd Apr 2011 08:13

Look up' the MMEL!

Saint Jack 23rd Apr 2011 08:27

No, look it up in the MEL assigned to the particular aircraft (by registration and/or serial number).

Exascot 23rd Apr 2011 10:17

Thank you for the advise but I don't have access to a MEL for any country. Situation UK or USA would be a guidance?

ricardian 23rd Apr 2011 10:27


Ah the mighty Islander.... take the windows out and replace them with Chicken wire, chuck a bit of sawdust about and one would have a descent, if a bit tight Rabbit hutch. :p
Very true. I'm 6ft 3ins tall and struggle a bit to fold my frame into the mighty Islander but it's still my preferred form of transport between Stronsay & Kirkwall; a 10 minute flight versus a 2 hour boat trip!
--
Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney

Fareastdriver 23rd Apr 2011 13:21

I heard a story when I was in Belize yonks ago that the reason why our Pumas were hoovering through tyres was because some enterprising chap was flogging them to Mayan airlines; an Islander operator.
One day a CAA inspector picked them up for using the wrong ply tyres on their machines; plus prop reduction gearboxes held together by Araldite, etc etc.

Saint Jack 24th Apr 2011 02:02

Exascot: A sample MMEL for both the Islander and Turbine Islander can be found on the UKCAA website under "List of Master Minimum Euipment Lists". Guidance for adapting a MMEL to an aircraft-specific MEL can be found in CAP549, also on the UKCAA website.

Not knowing the difference between an MMEL and a MEL is surprisingly common in the industry, as is the confusion between 'flight time' and 'time in service', but that's for another thread.

trex450 24th Apr 2011 11:59

having one fuel guage u/s is OK as long as fuel tank is dipped and 10% extra is carried. A u/s flap indicator was OK until the end of the day. At least this used to be the way on the one I flew a bit.

Exascot 25th Apr 2011 09:35

Many thanks Trex. My guess is that both gauge and indicator will remain u/s for some time.

Utrinque Apparatus 25th Apr 2011 09:59

I think it might be another example of Teeny Weenie Airways pilots needing bifocals ? :E

stevef 25th Apr 2011 10:08

Our BN2 operation: both items - MEL Cat 'B' (must be rectified within three days, not including the day of discovery).

Africa has very long days, of course... ;)


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