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On_The_Top_Bunk 26th Feb 2011 18:41

Well done to the Herc boys and girls
 
And all the others involved.

BBC News - RAF Hercules planes rescue 150 from Libya desert

NURSE 26th Feb 2011 18:48

hear hear well done all involved

backseatjock 26th Feb 2011 19:19

Once again the capabilities of the British armed forces is proven to a government and general public that simply does not seem to understand the need to sustain equipment levels and capabilities to cope with the unexpected.

No criticism of the British Army intended, but the wisdom of today’s near constant focus on armoured vehicles for Afghanistan ops, at the expense of naval and air assets, surely has to be questioned.

Follow Me Through 26th Feb 2011 19:26

A professional job
 
Well done to all those involved. Most impressive and slickly carried out. I would have expected nothing less from a world class AT fleet. Enjoy a beer and the plaudits that should flow. FMT

neilmac 26th Feb 2011 19:37

Good Shout
 
What really really grates me is all those majority Brits in Libya, did it for tax free easy money. Now my feckin taxes being used to rescue them..............Then they complain!!!

GrahamO 26th Feb 2011 19:40

Well done indeed to ALL the people on the aircraft - not just the air crew without whom the flight could not have happened but of course, those who most likely left the area, want into hostile territories without support to get the passengers back safely.

The public do understand, and respect what is achieved. We would just like people to stick to a budget for a change.


No criticism of the British Army intended, but the wisdom of today’s near constant focus on armoured vehicles for Afghanistan ops, at the expense of naval and air assets, surely has to be questioned.
No it doesn't and yes you plainly are criticising the Army. Guys on the ground are dying due to lack of appropriate land vehicles. Guys in the air are not. I know where the public feels the money should go. When the guys are no longer dying on the ground, that would be a good time to discuss the potential for losses in other areas which are as yet, unaffected, and what assets they may require.

Well done to everyone involved, and I mean everyone.

fincastle84 26th Feb 2011 19:43

Well done chaps, (& chapesses!).

I wonder if by chance the Tories might reconsider the defence cuts in the light of this well executed mission.

Duh, wishful thinking.:ugh:

backseatjock 26th Feb 2011 20:01

GrahamO – I am most definitely NOT criticising any of our armed forces and least of all the British Army. The point I was trying to make, clearly not well, was that we all deserve better from our national government which has, for too many years, neglected investment in equipment and capabilities.

This is not about current government policy, more about years of under investment.

Today we see decisions, albeit necessary ones, taken in response to grave situations that we find ourselves in and all too often as a result of casualties in theatre. Better strategic planning, rather than reactionary actions, is what we all deserve. Once the capability goes it becomes almost impossible to quickly bring it back!

Dengue_Dude 26th Feb 2011 20:04

Phew, that was lucky, we still had a couple of aircraft left . . .

Remember, in the mid 80s, being positioned in Akronelli awaiting a flight into Libya with several other TS crews.

Fortunately, all we had to do was inbibe the noble vino Kokinelli and ingest the ubiquitous kebab . . . then cope with the headache.

Well done guys, at least you got to do it.

rockridge 26th Feb 2011 20:09

Well done to all services involved, this would have took a lot of planning..very well executed. Chuffed.

fallmonk 26th Feb 2011 20:16

Well done to all involved directly or indirectly .
Once again it proves while we may have idiots in charge. the people on the ground(air) at the sharp end are still the best.
Hope someone buys you a cold beer for this :ok:

Fly off the handle 26th Feb 2011 20:45

Makes you proud, doesn't it.:D

NURSE 26th Feb 2011 20:50

but yet again the military have created good news and the politicians will ride the wave accept the praise on behalf of the services and convince themselves that it was their brilliant leadership that saved the day.
Then on monday they will go back to their desks breathe a sigh of relief and sign the necessary orders to scrap Cumberland and York and stab the services in the back. It doesn't matter which hue they are from. Until this country faces a test and fails that is when things will change. It took the defeat of the Marines on the Falkland islands and South Georgia to make the Thatcher govt change its descisions. The Image that did it was that of the marines face down in the road with the grinning buzzo tactico round them.

Grimweasel 26th Feb 2011 20:55

Well done to all involved and especially Team Lyneham! Such a shame that a Stn with so much glorious history will be consigned to the scrap heap this Summer :(

andrewn 26th Feb 2011 21:34

Agreed with others - Well Done to all involved both in providing both direct and indirect support.

And, yes, you would hope that this operation, as well as recent events in general, would act as a timely reminder to our glorious leaders that a balanced range of capabilities is required.

I wont hold my breath though....

Fox3WheresMyBanana 26th Feb 2011 21:43

Do we have the fighters left to provide top cover, I wonder?
Doesn't take 3 hours to get to Malta/Sardinia. Anybody in a pointy jet sitting there in case?

TBM-Legend 26th Feb 2011 21:55

Great job....Herc and Special Forces boys and girls:D

Also the mighty C-130, 56 years in the making and still a winner. Long live the King..

GrahamO 26th Feb 2011 21:58

Reference was made to 'specially equipped Hercules' in the papers.

Anyone know what was special ? Just more seats ?

Fox3WheresMyBanana 26th Feb 2011 22:02

Sneaky-beaky dark stuff I expect - I don't think Arabs fly at night, at least not to any great effect.

ukmil 26th Feb 2011 22:02

just these in this thread, having defence aids fitted

FighterControl • Home to the Military Aviation Enthusiast • View topic - Malta Luqa 25-26th February, 2011

Dengue_Dude 26th Feb 2011 22:05

The 'special' is simple.

They had TWO lumpy boxes each with an extra Mars bar as it takes a lot of energy and effort to keep the ring piece 'sixpence' instead of 'dinner-plate'.

You never know, perhaps they called up 'Cat's Eyes Cunningham' to help . . .

Jimlad1 26th Feb 2011 22:22

Isnt the special fit designed to carry all the dictaphones and manuscripts that the SF carry with them for their next book?

Fun listening to the Sky News security analyst making out that we've got AC130s flying top cover!

Shack37 26th Feb 2011 22:22

Well done guys and gals, especially under the coalition handicap.:D

captain_gash 26th Feb 2011 22:43

I've no doubt that at some point the boys and girls involved will grace this page and i just wanted to say good job. I seem to remember a few months ago when SDSR was being drafted some government monkeys talking about "tomorrows defence challenges" "and flexible" when all along it was an obvious "defence is an easy kill for a few billion" i wonder how many briefing papers will have had this scenario in it? Goes to show they have no idea what will come next. What is the point in paying taxes if you can’t defend your borders / interests? Defence first, i hate to say it but i think history may well teach us a lesson again soon, i hope we are ready for it? once again congrats on a job well done, i feel an outbreak of moral surfacing havent felt that in a while

Final 3 Greens 26th Feb 2011 23:13

Very well done to the RAF et al.

Perhaps also a kind word for Malta Airport ATC, who are efficiently managing a lot of extra movements.

To say nothing of the Maltese population, who are largely supportive, despite potential retaliation by the regime against some Libyans on the islands, with the risk of colateral damage.

4fitter 26th Feb 2011 23:25

some of the boys and girls involved know their efforts are appreciated !

snafu 26th Feb 2011 23:44

Well done to all involved....but I'd hate to think what the Libyan equivalent of South Cerney is like!! Presumably they had Movers to make sure that the evacuees all had to turn up 40 miles away from the aircraft 6 hours beforehand as well!!;)

Roadster280 27th Feb 2011 00:05

Well done to all. I am sure that there is quite a bit of detail that isn't going to come out in public, and long may that be so. This was clearly not a simple AT flight.

Per Ardua.

Phileas Fogg 27th Feb 2011 00:23

So the closing of RAF Luqa was a good decision then?

RetiredSHRigger 27th Feb 2011 00:30

Well done to all concerned, :ok:

fincastle84 27th Feb 2011 05:55


So the closing of RAF Luqa was a good decision then?
I was there at the time. The then Maltese government were glad to see the back of us. At the time they were busily climbing into bed with.............................. Col Gaddafi!!!

What goes around..........

Well done to all involved in the rescue.

sitigeltfel 27th Feb 2011 06:06


Originally Posted by Fox3WheresMyBanana (Post 6272913)
Do we have the fighters left to provide top cover, I wonder?
Doesn't take 3 hours to get to Malta/Sardinia. Anybody in a pointy jet sitting there in case?

There are a couple of spare Mirages sitting in Malta doing nothing ;)

BOAC 27th Feb 2011 06:49

As 4fitter says, we can be assured our message is received. A stunning success, well done - and our thoughts to those still 'in theatre'.

It did, however, give me no joy to see 'the fox' on TV making 'the announcement' - he was either relishing his moment of glory in having got the SDSR 'just right':ugh: or sweating like a pig in case what was probably an organisational shambles at his level became public under journos' questioning.

Thank the Lord it is finally down to the military to implement all this.

high spirits 27th Feb 2011 07:56

BOAC,
Fox is just crowing because he has made Hague look incompetent and will probably get his job at the next reshuffle:ugh: Nobody wants Defence as a politician - bit like being the Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher in Harry Potter - no-one ever lasts more than a year in post. I wonder how much the MOD will charge the FCO for the use of their hardware and expertise(even though it all comes out of the same budget in the end).

Well done to the hercs(from a rotary mate) enjoy the headlines in todays papers.:D

Perrin 27th Feb 2011 08:50

PERRIN
 
As a ex USAF serviceman I know how much work it has been for the people that will not get into the papers. Very well done boys I was in the other war zone in Asia and found the public did not give credit to the armed forces and its going that way here (I now live in Scotland).
One question where do they get these *{**! they put as head of the MOD?
ie Fox,Reid etc. Well done again!!!:D

billynospares 27th Feb 2011 09:06

Top work Albert and crews (ground and air) doing what they do best :ok:

Non Emmett 27th Feb 2011 09:37

Well done all concerned, not over yet but as usual, when it gets tough we rely on our servicemen and women and they don't let us down. Despite frequent comment in these pages regarding the lack of interest and comitment by the civilian population, I don't really think that is a universal trend, many of my age group are truly interested in the future of our armed forces.

Just a thought and not trying to introduce a note of dissent - I would have thought the Special Operations folk at Mildenhall might well have been involved in all this plus the USN has significant assets down in the Med afloat and at Sigonella. There's mention this morning of Hungary getting involved today and, I think Romania, and even the Irish Air Corps has stepped in but I have heard virtually nothing about American help.

TEEEJ 27th Feb 2011 10:22



TJ

Uncle Ginsters 27th Feb 2011 10:40

I guess the only drawback of rescuing so many is all those handshakes required back at base:ok:

Sweet work.:D

Runaway Gun 27th Feb 2011 11:56

Where was the rescued dog that was highlighted?


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