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cazatou 12th Feb 2011 10:04

Spurlash2

"Abstemious" doesn't count - it was a Pub Quiz.

Radar Command T/O 12th Feb 2011 10:24


Really Annoyed.

I really wish you were as angry as you pretend to be. If you were, you would've dropped dead of a heart attack by now and made this world a happier place. I hope to God you aren't in a leadership position in the RAF and I would be amazed if you were. You post like an absolute arse of the first order.

Taking a contrary extreme view to every opinion offered is 6th form debating club stuff. It isn't clever and it negates the occasional sensible post you put out.

Please feel free to put up a silly smiley face and call this a bite in a responding post. Nobody cares - honestly, grow up and let others express an opinion or post a rumour.

Wow, that felt good.
Beat me to the punch!

Really Annoying,

Actually, the word is spelt "pedantic".

But, while we're correcting my little typo on the word "facetious", I'll not mention that before you amended your first response to my post, you actually spelt the word "princess" wrong and corrected it later.

Our little secret, right? :ok:

SilsoeSid 12th Feb 2011 10:28

On a pedantic note, as someone else brought it up, can we alter the thread title please?


Your just "Public Sector Workers"
It just seems to give out the wrong impression ;)

Uncle Ginsters 12th Feb 2011 11:19

Read between the lines of the original statement and it speaks volumes on how the Forces are seen by some sections of government; yes, we are Public Sector Workers.

BUT, we are Public Sector Workers give their lives to serve this country,
who spend half their lives away from their families to serve this country,
who drag their families around the country then abandon them on OOA to serve this country,
who often serve under conditions that would have the most hardened prison criminals on hunger strike,
whose 'contract' is to do anything asked of them...anything!

Name me one other branch of the Public Sector that does that?

Thank you the Right Honourable Lady, you have further enhanced the RBL's point!

Covenant, felling axe, SCHWACK.

ian16th 12th Feb 2011 12:01

She ain't a 'Right Honourable Lady'! She would have to be an MP to be called that.

She's only a civil servant.

cazatou 12th Feb 2011 12:01

My dictionary defines "Covenant" as "A Mutual Agreement".

If HMG imposes changes to Terms of Service etc then the "Agreement" is no longer "Mutual" and the Covenant ceases to exist.

Jimlad1 12th Feb 2011 12:05

At the risk of trying to apply a sense of balance, if you watch what the PUS said, she was talking about a public sector pay freeze across the whole of Government, to which Julian Arbuthnot picked her up and made his point about public sector and the armed forces.

I may be wrong here, but my understanding was that the armed forces were affected by the public sector pay freeze, so the PUS was being completely correct in her original statement?

The discussion was twisted in reporting to suit the telegraphs political agenda - having taken the time to dig out what was originally said, I am struggling to spot anything she said that was intended to give offence, nor out of line with plenty of previous statements by various seniors, which have never caused ' Im outraged threads' to be posted here.I fear some people seek to be offended too easily sadly.

Player - link to the evidence, statements were made at 1hr 2mins and 1hr 5mins approximately.

Biggus 12th Feb 2011 12:19

Jimlad1,

How does the saying go...?

"Never let the facts get in the way of a good story" :=


Being misquoted, or selectively reported on, is unfortunatley a sign of the modern times, and something no doubt politicians and prominent figures in all walks of life, business, sport, and even the civil service, just have to get used to...

minigundiplomat 12th Feb 2011 15:52


to which Julian Arbuthnot picked her up and made his point about public sector and the armed forces.
Devils in the detail Jimlad. No wonder procurements screwed if we can't even get MP's names right.

Jimlad1 12th Feb 2011 16:18

You're quite right MGD - forgive me for I have sinned :E

hval 12th Feb 2011 17:34

Oh for heavens sake Really annoyed,

Please will you be so kind as to refrain from attacking people so discourteously and with such apparent venom. You take up irrelevancies and appear to make every attempt to annoy people and to derail a thread. People are entitled to opinions. You are entitled to yours even. But to be so obnoxious and irrelevant is irritating.

If you have no desire to be constructive please refrain from participating; pretty please even.


Hval

Edited for missing words

minigundiplomat 12th Feb 2011 17:56

Really Annoyed is actually a MOD plant within PPrune.

Whenever someone deviates from the party line, he pops up to argue the diametric opposite position in favour of the MOD, or failing that, sabotages the thread through repeated pedantry.

He will be CAS one day - though the RAF will consist of the one person left.....him.

Tocsin 12th Feb 2011 18:08

The IGNORE option
 
May I respectfully remind the esteemed members of PPRuNe that a facility to "Ignore" particularly obnoxious posters has been provided?

I have used it on two tw*ts so far, and feel a third coming on! (Of course, it works better if the tw*t's drivel is not quoted in a follow-up). :=

Mad_Mark 12th Feb 2011 18:11

I don't know about him being a plant but I do know that he is a TOTAL TW@ !!

He must be such a fun person to be with in real life with an attitude like that - just ignore the wan#er :ok:

MadMark!!! :mad:

cazatou 12th Feb 2011 18:33

Really annoyed

You "Really" should check your facts before posting.

HMG reserves the right to tax "Government Pensions" in the United Kingdom irrespective of where the recipient resides in the World. You could retire to a country that does not level tax on income - but your Service Pension (and Old Age Pension) will still be taxed in UK. My Service Pension (I still have a few months to go before I am eligible for the State Old Age Pension) and my Wife's Teachers and Old Age Pensions are therefore taxed by HMG.

I await your apology.

glad rag 12th Feb 2011 18:44


Quote:
However, unless someone in MOD stands up for the Armed Forces, the little things that make up for the lack of the above rights (and the list was supposed to be a little facietious!) enjoyed by all other workers will continue to be eroded to the point that people really will leave, and those that remain (mortgage trap, pension trap, etc), will have no loyalty to the Services beyond the pay statement at the end of the month.
Rights? You joined an Armed Force not the girl guides. If you don't like the rules you have to play to, leave, there are plenty of people willing to take your place.


p.s. it's "facetious", not "facietious".:ugh:
Aye and a gentlemans member is a gentlemans member no matter how you spell it!:uhoh::ouch::suspect::cool:

HEHE this forum is SO much fun.

Roland Pulfrew 12th Feb 2011 19:06

Really Annoyed

You are Liam Fox. You are a complete tw@t. And I claim my £10.

Now for God's sake :mad: off. Your views are simplistic and surprisingly naive, you must work for DGMC and the rest of the MOD spin doctors. Your comments would be slightly amusing if it wasn't for the fact HM Forces are up a certain creek and the paddle has been taken as a "savings measure".

Pontius Navigator 12th Feb 2011 19:29

Tocsin you are so right and it stops me being really annoyed.

Lottery

Your "Just Public Sector Workers"

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TC - Really small point to most but don't you mean You're "Just Public Sector Workers"?
Could it mean "your just Public Sector Workers" as opposed to "Unjust Public . . . "? :}

cazatou 12th Feb 2011 20:13

PN

Re "Unjust Public Sector Workers".

I see absolutely NO reason to bring HM Revenue and Customs into this debate!!

Pontius Navigator 13th Feb 2011 07:03

Ignorance is bliss and stops you being really annoyed.


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