Tornado Down Part 2
 

Reports of another GR4 down at Lossie. 2 ejected - hopefully safely.

If true, then what you said, hope they managed a safe MB let down.

Where did you hear this?

What reports?

If it is true, best wishes to the crew - who will be the first ejectees to be picked up by the Lossie SAR crew in 15 years.

I havent heard the helicopters going up but also havent heard any jets flying about for quite a while!

Yep, cab airbourne lossie-no news on crew yet.

Nothing on the BBC NE Scotland website.

Where exactly did you hear about this?

It is being reported on the BBC Scotland page on the stop press banner at the top of the web-page.

BBC saying "2 crew are in hospital after their Tornado jet crash landed at Lossiemouth Airfield"

Ok, I can't see anything, but that could be my lack of IT skills.

Hope crew are ok.

State 1 declared late afternoon. Info has it that the aircraft is just off runway 23, half way down

BBC Report

Can confirm, Tornado crashed on landing, 2 ejected, civi and service fire service in attendance.

It seems that the aircraft is sat on it's wheels on the grass beside the runway, so not a 'crash' as such.
Whatever reason the crew had for ejecting, the important thing is they are safe and well.

Does anyone know if the crash sufficiently bad so as to scrap the aircraft ?

How many Tornado's do we actually have left given we have no ability to replace them ?

Speedy recovery to both crew.

How very timely and considerate of you!

The crew are safe and well as has been stated so its not inconsiderate.

My point is that once they are fully recovered, are they able to go back to duties or is it another wing down for good ?

It depends how bent she is.

There's a fantastic shot in FighterContol (in the Heads-up/OTT section),it ended-up inbetween a fence and a HAS.

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Im told ZD741 / 089

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Have you got the photographer's permission to post the shot here ?

Assuming he is not the photographer of course!!!:ok:

Firstly glad the crew got out and here is hoping for a swift recovery for any injuries sustained.

Now a bone question from an ex-stacker.

When the old MBs leave the aircraft is there any form of 'kill switch' to cut fuel to the engines or do they just carry on regardless, obviously bearing in mind any issues that caused said assisted departure?

My knowledge of such things is restricted to sitting in the back of various aircraft and hazy memories of the "junp, jump Johnny" Chipmunk procedural film from AEF days.

Theres a crash switch stacker that i believe cuts power and fuel to the engines and discharges the extinguishers into the engines but i may be wrong im only a liney :)

Ah, those tricky pax flights. "Now hold on tight, we're about to land. Don't hold on to that stripey handlllllllllllllllllllllllleeewhooosh"

See... This is why we have a military. It's all that defence R&D that comes up with devices like this that filter down to the public and ensure we don't have jet skis and boats scooting willy-nilly about our lakes.

I bet the one in the Tornado cost a few hundred grand though... :ugh:

There is a crash switch that does all sorts of things but it has to be operated by the pilot. In this case it looks as if someone will have had to climb into the cockpit and shut it all down.

Sorry to burst any bubbles,

when a tonka crew bang out, the engines etc still have to be shut down,
there are crash switches which the fire crews use,
i would suggest that , that is one of the reasons for the ladders being upto the cockpits of an empty jet!!!

That's strange RA. The emergency kill switch on my watercraft is certainly separate from the ignition key.

Thanks for the sensible answer Timelord.

Having spent my entire career working with SH and the limited amount of crash/fire training given whilst on TSW (pull/push yellow and black bits, squirt extinguisher in specific places) the world of fast, pointy things is a bit of a mystery.

As it should be... Any aircraft that needs a run up to get off the ground is unnatural...

Was it a take off or landing roll? NWS fail? uncommanded steering input?? ICO no longer wired up these days???

Dunno whats going on with the GR punteroes these days...

...totally tongue in cheek of course; more than happy Mr MB did the business and the crew vacated safely, nothing like heading askew towards some of NATO's finest concrete to make your mind up.:ok:

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tried posting this earlier...

fire crews would have had to shut the jet down, as there is no "key" etc
the crew wont have done it as they used the express departure method!!!

glad they are ok!

um..
tried posting this earlier...

fire crews would have had to shut the jet down, as there is no "key" etc
the crew wont have done it as they used the express departure method!!!

glad they are ok!


How would you know smarty pants?:}

Maybe they operated the crash switch before they ejected?

Actually he hasn't but it's my fault for not putting copyright on. Lesson learned.

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Al

tornado
 

Lossie! State 1

Welll, yer see, they coulda stayed with it, bloomin aircrew nowadays... anything to get a free tie! :eek:



(Cant fault you Gents, hope you're both fit and well :ok:)

From the Daily Telegraph:

Tornado Crash Landing
RAF Tornado crashes two weeks after another jet landed in the sea.

Close, but no cigar!

Cor, I recognise that HAS site. Spent a couple of years there when it was new.

I have to say, if I was driving one of these jet thingies and it was heading towards a HAS I'd get out the quickest way possible!

I seem to remember that the crash switch is also designed to move under impact. (Sort of like the one in modern cars that cuts off the fuel pump and activates the hazard lights.)