Tornado down
 

BBC reporting Tornado down off Gairloch

BBC News - Tornado jet crew eject before aircraft crashes

Hope the crew are safe and well.

FS.

Hope both Pilot and Nav are safe and make a good recovery.

Sky News reporting they have been picked up by helicopter and on way to hospital.

Interesting, never imagined the back seater would go off on their own. :ugh:

Glad they are ok.

Under threat
 

Nice to see the under threat Lossie Tornados being supported by the under threat Coastguard service:ugh:

Hope they are OK, just as well they were fairly close to land, otherwise they might have needed SAR top cover.

[pedant]
Perectly good comment Nutloose, it's the CREWS that train in pairs not the individuals. A Tornado crew is 2 people so a pair of crews consists of 4 people and 2 aircraft. [/pedant]

Nutloose

Perhaps the other of the pair in question is the second aircraft?

Well it is a cheaper way of getting rid of them than BAE and MRA4s..............

Nice to see the moderated comments ie just wishing the crew well rather than launching straight into judge/jury/executioner as has happened previously.

I'm sure the crew are enjoying the Nurses in Raigmore and God Speed to them and safe recovery.

30 mRad

Speedy recovery
 

Glad to hear the crew are both ok. Hope you have a speedy recovery from your experience.

Good news and nice timing.

Green Granite, Orgasmic :bored::bored:

Its like the bloody spelling police on here, read just don't type pllleeeeaaaassee !

Glad both got out and hope they are doing well.

FnF, and very PC too. What was wrong with 2-man crew?

Pontius

I reckon crew could have just said they didn't wish to meet the Minister.

Glad to hear they are ok:ok:, jets can be replaced, people can't.

Glad they are both OK:D

Speedy recovery to both aircrew.

Such a pity `the Minister` hadn`t been dropped off in Kinloss...by mistake...!

I note from the BBC report that a MCA Tug is on it's way to the scene at a time when the tugs are under threat. Presume this means the Tornado is beached on a sand bank then?

Why not? It was in reply to the usual let's knock the ignorant press post.

I see the tug (Anglian Prince) is back on the pier but there was a Minesweeper pootling about the Loch Ewe area a few days ago. If it's still in the area it might be able to find the bits?

I just noticed this comment had been inserted into the BBC article on the crash:

If its a fire, are we looking at fatigue problems in equipment? If so what impact will this have on the threatened aircraft?

Good to know the crew can talk, but lets keep the speculation down for a few days? There may be lots of implications here, let the investigators investigate..

Sycamore
 

Now there's a thought to gladen the heart

How do you get fatigue problems from a report of a fire? FFS, please don't speculate, you'll only set the idiots off and running. There's no corroboration and speculation is pointless. Th BoI will already have been convened, we should await their findings. :ugh:

strong rumour going around that it was an a/c on test in the maritime recce role. Pie oven retrofitted from the MRA4 overheated and caught fire. Rest is history.

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I note from the BBC report that a MCA Tug is on it's way to the scene at a time when the tugs are under threat. Presume this means the Tornado is beached on a sand bank then?"

Bloody hell guys, I know the RAF is jealous of the RN, but just because the RN puts something on the sandbanks, doesnt means that you have to copy them:E

Delighted to hear both crew are well.

Glad to hear both are ok.

Is it still true that a certain tie entitles you to beers at M-B expense? If so, enjoy!

S41

Fire = Fuel + Heat + Oxygen... Last one is easy, other two need some investigation.:E

Very pleased to hear that the crew are OK. If the aircraft is still intact (unlikely) I'm curious went wrong.

There is some really pointless posts on here lets just hear what the crew say please!

I completely agree...

"Glad to hear they are okhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif, jets can be replaced, people can't."

But..is that really the case with the RAF these days?

...the bit about the jets, I mean...:\

For all those who want to speculate - please go ahead if you have any ideas of what may have happened.

It doesn't do any harm at all to speculate on an internet rumour board as to what may have gone wrong. For the "ooooh mustn't speculate" brigade - stop being so pompous - it is only PPRUNE not the AAIB or a BoI.

Glad they are relatively unharmed and a speedy recovery to them both

It was a mid-air with a late-running Father Christmas. :}

Trouble is, there are enough idiots around who will read an uninformed speculative post on here regarding something that is rightly confidential and take it as gospel, repeating it endlessly and gathering credence due to volume as it goes.

Anyway, the initial signal is out with some of the facts for those who have access to it. Most important is that the crew got out and no-one else was hurt. :ok:

@JAJ
Any chance you could PM me any details you have from the signal: I'm in Germany and have no access to the Brit system whilst flying the deutsche flavour of Tonka.
TVM
Spy

I'd just like to add my comments that I hope the crew are OK and are back with their colleagues, friends and families as soon as possible.

It kind of puts my bad days in the office into some kind of perspective. :uhoh:

Glad the crew got out safely. Always a satisfying feeling for the bomb’eads who fitted the seats.:D:D

As it appears to have been a fire, a few of us here could speculate on several theories based on history, but will keep my thoughts to myself for now.

Does anybody know which Sqn they were from?

Yes, given the rumoured plans to reduce the number of GR4s.

However sod's law will apply.

If there are X knackered jets earmarked for early retirement, any jet that crashes will be from the less knackered pool.