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Algy 4th Mar 2013 08:19

BBC report of A400M at Brize Norton
 
Here's the BBC take on the visit to BZN on Friday 1 March. BBC News - Taking to the skies on RAF's new transport plane

ian16th 4th Mar 2013 09:45

Airbus Military's A400M aircraft is poised to take off - Telegraph

Also in today's Torygraph!

It appears that someone has pushed the 'publicity' button.

Dysonsphere 4th Mar 2013 12:00

Remind me what was the orignal in service date.

ORAC 5th Mar 2013 20:51

Defense news: Joint Venture To Train RAF Crews on Atlas A400M

LONDON — Royal Air Force crews set to fly the new Atlas A400M airlifter are to be trained by a joint venture company set up by Airbus Military and Thales UK. The deal is contracted to run for 18 years at a cost of 226 million pounds ($340 million), the joint venture company, known as A400M Training Services, announced Monday.

Separately, the Ministry of Defence revealed it is spending 80 million pounds to modify the Atlas aircraft so it can be fitted with a large aircraft infrared countermeasures system.

The training facility being built at the Brize Norton home of the RAF’s airlifter and inflight refueling fleets is scheduled to be completed in spring 2014, just ahead of the delivery date of the first A400M to the RAF. Air crew and ground maintenance and support personnel will be trained at the Atlas facility using Thales-supplied simulators and other synthetic systems. Thales secured the simulator supply deal in 2007 following a competition.

RAF personnel are already being trained at an Airbus training facility alongside the Seville, Spain, assembly base for the aircraft

Trumpet_trousers 6th Mar 2013 17:43

MSN7 First flight
 
First production Airbus Military A400M makes maiden flight - Airbus Military

Just returned, nice to get a FF under my belt! :D

Courtney Mil 6th Mar 2013 17:58

Good for you! Can you tell us more? :ok:

BEagle 6th Mar 2013 18:51

Hey TT - good to hear from you! Great news that the first production aircraft has made its maiden flight...:ok:

I'll bet you're glad I poached you from 99 and started you off on your civvy career - you wouldn't have had so much fun in what's left of the RAF!

It was good to see you at F'boro last year - despite the pi$$ing bŁoody rain!

Trumpet_trousers 6th Mar 2013 18:58

CM and Beagle, not much more to say really, the PR sums it up nicely, apart from which, I have to whizz off for the celebration dinner in town! :ok:

flugholm 7th Mar 2013 08:48

Shades of grey
 
Slightly different shade of grey on MSN 7. "Merde gris" is what someone called it on another discussion board. :=

flugholm 13th Mar 2013 11:02

Type Certificate
 
EASA Type Certificate EASA.A.169 was received today.
http://www.easa.europa.eu/certificat...3-13032013.pdf
:ok:

Courtney Mil 13th Mar 2013 11:17

For some reason I just read the certificate. Why?

I did notice something interesting, though.

It describes the aircraft as


Four turbo-propeller engines, medium range tactical transport aeroplane, large aeroplane category.
And goes on to define


18. Minimum Flight Crew
Two (2): Pilot and co-pilot
However, we then find that


19. Maximum Seating Capacity
No other occupants apart of the minimum flight crew are allowed on board

20. Baggage/ Cargo Compartment
No loads shall be carried in the cargo compartment
Transport aircraft aren't what they used to be, are they? :cool:

theboywide 13th Mar 2013 12:40

This must be the restricted type certification with full to come.
I didn't look in any great detail but this only clears up to 31000ft when the ac operates up to at least 37000ft.

flugholm 13th Mar 2013 13:00

theboywide wrote:
>This must be the restricted type certification with full to come.

No, the RTC was already issued April 30th, 2012.

GreenKnight121 13th Mar 2013 14:57

So you are claiming that this, which forbids carrying any passengers or cargo, is the full type certification?

For a gawddam cargo plane?

kbrockman 13th Mar 2013 16:01

MTOW is also almost 20,000lbs below original spec (132T iso 141T) which gives limited room for cargo and pax at all, certainly when you look at the
Max Landing Weight of 117.7T(originally122T) and empty weight of 77T,
with full fuel that would make 127T and thus only room for 5T of Cargo.

Temporary restricted type certification, I would like to think.

Courtney Mil 13th Mar 2013 16:05

You reckon? Either that or it's a hell of a big beast just to transport two pilots around the world. Not even a hostie. :eek:

John Farley 13th Mar 2013 19:00

There may be some confusion here between the stage the aircraft has reached with respect to its civil as opposed to its military certification.

keesje 13th Mar 2013 20:22

Pretty normal in militairy programs.

Futher testing, analyses will lead to expanded capability approvals and the final operating configuration.

This aircraft will go through the qualifications of a passenger transport on civil airways, tactical transport on soft short runways at night, tanker for jets and helicopters, receiver. Mountains of certfication and paperwork..

Airbus Military's A400M: in pictures - Telegraph

keesje 16th Mar 2013 01:17

No tanker role for UK A400Ms
 

The UK has no requirement to use its future fleet of Airbus Military A400M Atlas tactical transports in a secondary tanker role, minister for defence equipment, support and technology Philip Dunne has confirmed.
http://www.flightglobal.com/Assets/G...x?ItemID=49856

No tanker role for UK A400Ms

But:


The A400M will be delivered with an in-built tanker capability, with some nations expected to acquire hose-and-drogue refuelling pods and/or hose drum units to provide an in-flight refuelling capability to support fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters.
So if the Brits change their minds in say 3 years they can still order kits.

BEagle 16th Mar 2013 07:48


The UK has no requirement to use its future fleet of Airbus Military A400M Atlas tactical transports in a secondary tanker role, minister for defence equipment, support and technology Philip Dunne has confirmed.
So, nothing to do with the AirTanker contract then.....:rolleyes:

I guess the UK has no plans to refuel helicopters?


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