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cheesedoff 7th May 2010 16:00

As this is a site for rumour and speculation...Gear horn CB tripped and forgotten about. No U/C or util hyd problems as surely there would have been a call / diversion to black another runway.

Come on gents, how many times have you forgotten to reset the CB and during a busy sortie, said what you thought you saw? I suspect alot of people. We are only human.

Glad everyone was ok, a few damaged egos but no injuries.

Talk Reaction 7th May 2010 16:07

If you landed on your belly would you not still black both runways as you gouge the intersection anyway??

vernon99 7th May 2010 16:21

I think the point is you do not close the only runway at an operational unit if you have a choice, instead hop somewhere else, in this instance it may not have been possible to hop anywhere else, as we are not aware of the facts, ie is it a simple case of operator error, or was there a system failure leaving the crew with no choice?

As for somewhere else to ditch it I guess Kemble can't be more than 5-10 mins from Brize?

Willard Whyte 7th May 2010 16:44

Lack of fire cover?

RAF_SARGE 7th May 2010 17:22

Much better photo now posted!

FighterControl • Home to the Military Aviation Enthusiast • View topic - Brize black - C130 wheels-up.

Jambo Jet 7th May 2010 17:30

If it's a speculation website.

Sim double assy approach to roll.... oops

John Farley 7th May 2010 17:30

The picture at post 68 tells a story. But only if you think.

TheWizard 7th May 2010 17:42

Does one not look out of ones control tower to check these things anymore?
(only if they were not already aware of course- btw that is not speculation, more of a question!)

Pontius Navigator 7th May 2010 18:12

The Wizard, probably not, or more probably unsighted which is why in fast-jet or training bases they have a runway caravan.

I don't know BZN but the view of an approaching aircraft from a distant and tall visual control room is necessarily limited.

bayete 7th May 2010 18:12

John,
Mmmm I see what you mean.
Although I can think of 2 stories it might tell.

billynospares 7th May 2010 18:41

I am sorry pontious do i need facts to post on a rumour site ? :ugh:

dallas 7th May 2010 19:21


The Wizard, probably not, or more probably unsighted which is why in fast-jet or training bases they have a runway caravan.

I don't know BZN but the view of an approaching aircraft from a distant and tall visual control room is necessarily limited.
On the contrary Pontius, it was always SOP at BZZ Tower for the assistant to positively check the gear because there wasn't a caravan there.

3 bladed beast 7th May 2010 21:31

It's quite clearly a conspiracy to keep Lyneham open......

Hueymeister 7th May 2010 22:35

This looks soooo sad:}

VP8 7th May 2010 22:53

From what i understand from my man @ BZZ aircraft notified ATC of prob with U/C did two flybys for U/C check sent to loose a bit of gas then plonked it on centreline in a good orderly fashion...:}

Kitbag 7th May 2010 23:31

Probably a stupid question, but if there was a fault with the gear why black a runway away from the types MOB. Recovery/repair would surely be easer at home rather than driving 30 or 40 miles. Was fuel a problem perhaps? or was it just a c@ck up?

MATELO 8th May 2010 00:46

Ken-130

Matelo, the video is NOT of the Brize incident...It was just to show how well an Albert can take a belly landing
Yes I know, hence the little sarcastic remark about the fireman:)

The Nr Fairy 8th May 2010 06:47

See, the plan to move Hercs to Lyneham is so bad, even the airframes are trying to sabotage it.

And the Fighter Control link doesn't seem to be working at the moment, so here's the BBC version:

BBC News - Hercules makes emergency landing at RAF Brize Norton

Although I take issue with "London / South"

JagRigger 8th May 2010 07:05

Would you bother to feather the props if it was accidental, or would you be more concerned with getting out ASAP ?

Seldomfitforpurpose 8th May 2010 07:43

Why would you "do a couple of circuits" at Bzn when your home base with all your technical expertise, infrastructure etc is no more than 4 minutes away :rolleyes:


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