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no sig 5th Mar 2010 08:05

'Good Readable?
 
Do the RAF use a different r/t readability scale to that in civilian aviation? I often hear 'good readable' used rather than Strength 4 or 5, or is this just an old (but useful) hang over from another time?

PPRuNeUser0211 5th Mar 2010 08:16

NoSig - A recent (very recent) change to our RT procedures has introduced readability 1/2/3/4/5 in line with civvy-land.

US Herk 5th Mar 2010 11:26

Stateside used to be "5 by 5" which mean 5 Loud and 5 clear on a 1-5 scale - this is often abbreviated to "loud and clear" which I've heard shortened further to "Lima Charlie"

I've heard many variations on this basic theme such as, "weak but readable" and others.

I think the concept is universal....

BEagle 5th Mar 2010 11:48


I've heard many variations on this basic theme
"Gotcha cloudy beer!"

"Copyin' ya wall to wall 'n tree top tall"

"Checkin' in at three five oh 'n lookin' for ride reports....."

Unfortunately the 'informal' quality of RT in the US does encourage such comedians.

And are they still bleating about their $odding rounders scores on 123.45?

MATELO 5th Mar 2010 13:12


Do the RAF use a different r/t readability scale to that in civilian aviation? I often hear 'good readable' used rather than Strength 4 or 5, or is this just an old (but useful) hang over from another time?
The army use a slightly different version of r/t procedures which have been adopted by some of the RAF (90SU). Maybe this is where the "confusion" lies, maybe.

PTT 5th Mar 2010 13:38


"loud and clear" which I've heard shortened further to "Lima Charlie"
I never really understood that as the former has 3 syllables and the latter "shortened" version has 4. Kind of like saying "double-you double-you double-you" instead of "world wide web".

Pontius Navigator 5th Mar 2010 16:24

IIRC we used to use strength but given we didn't have a strength meter it was judged more meaningful to call it as it was - weak, readable - rather than 4 - 2 which would require a look up at either end to see which number was most appropriate.

I guess a numerical code might be easier for non-native English speakers to use.

Rotax 5th Mar 2010 16:36

Surely it either "Loud and clear" or "Say again"

Nowthen 5th Mar 2010 16:48

2 by 2

Too loud too often

lurkposition 5th Mar 2010 17:15

after 35 glorious years on Hercules and Sea Kings, it is all "Say again"!:\

US Herk 5th Mar 2010 17:19


Originally Posted by PTT
I never really understood that as the former has 3 syllables and the latter "shortened" version has 4.

Because it sounds cooler! :}

vecvechookattack 5th Mar 2010 17:30


after 35 glorious years on Hercules and Sea Kings, it is all "Say again"!
:D

Well said..... Much the same in the Lynx.... Its generally "What did he say"? "Did you hear that" ?
:ok:

Pontius Navigator 6th Mar 2010 11:28

How about the dreaded "words twice" or "I read back"

We had the latter when we filed an airborne flight plan; never again!

PTT 6th Mar 2010 12:47


Because it sounds cooler! :}
It really, really doesn't :hmm:


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