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soddim 8th Feb 2010 23:15

Canadian Airbase Commander Charged with Murder
 
BBC News - Canadian air force commander charged with two murders

StopStart 9th Feb 2010 01:23

Wow.... :eek:

Mish Nish 9th Feb 2010 02:03

More on this ghastly story from the CBC:

CBC News - Canada - Biography: Col. Russell Williams

and

CBC News Photogallery

vecvechookattack 9th Feb 2010 06:53

Wow indeed...... Things you would never think you would hear... "The Boss has been charged with 2 counts of Murder...."

dctyke 9th Feb 2010 09:23

Our bosses seem to be murdering the RAF but get away with it..........

airborne_artist 9th Feb 2010 09:33

We had a rupert in the Artists Rifles who got life for murder. Think he was a barrister, too.

SRENNAPS 9th Feb 2010 09:56

Even more of a wow for me. :}:}

In 1994, when we were on our usual hard drinking detachment to Goose Bay we sent two Tornados to Shearwater AFB in NS.

I, along with 3 lads was chosen to look after the aircraft for a long weekend.

We were flown to Shearwater in a Challenger aircraft.

Report from the CBC News Link:


In 1992, Williams was posted to 434 Combat Support Squadron in Shearwater, N.S., where he flew the CC-144 Challenger in the electronic warfare and coastal patrol role.
They did not have many Challenger Aircraft. Was this man our Pilot.....I dont want to know:*:*

charliegolf 9th Feb 2010 10:33

He's not gonna get away with a punishment posting to Benbecula, is he?

CG

Two-Tone-Blue 9th Feb 2010 11:11

I had some weird bosses in my time, but none of them were quite as bad as that. AFAIK, of course.

Runaway Gun 9th Feb 2010 11:17

Remember ladies, he's not been found guilty yet, eh?

clunckdriver 9th Feb 2010 12:15

I doubt he will make next years promotion list even if found not guilty, however reading between the lines the OPP seem to have a watertight case against him, the reaction to this from one familly {in our region}whos son came home in a wooden box and were greated by him at Trenton is just too painfull to watch.

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 9th Feb 2010 13:11

Calling chaps who should be Group Captains, “Colonel”, is bound to be mentally destabilising.

alisoncc 9th Feb 2010 13:38

Not neccessarily so. If you spell it Kernel, being more than a bit of a nutter.

teeteringhead 9th Feb 2010 14:40

Do we (RAF) still have exchange truckies at Trenton - I'm sure we used to ....?

Tankertrashnav 9th Feb 2010 15:28


doubt he will make next years promotion list even if found not guilty,
Being found not guilty didn't hinder the career of Ali Dizaei after he was acquitted in 2002. Still that's the Met, not the RCAF or whatever they call it these days.

goudie 9th Feb 2010 15:40


Calling chaps who should be Group Captains, “Colonel”, is bound to be mentally destabilising.
It's even worse for the RC Navy chaps. ''Now hear this, now hear this, this is your Colonel speaking!''

Ned Parsnip 9th Feb 2010 15:58

Double life?
 
It seems Col. Russell Williams’ led a double life.


Top officer facing murder charges commanded Canada’s largest air base, flew top diplomats

by Michael Friscolanti on Monday, February 8, 2010 6:49pm -
The commander of one of Canada’s largest military bases is in a prison cell today, accused of murdering two Ontario women—including a fellow service member—and sexually assaulting two others.
Col. Russell Williams, a career air force officer, was the top man at CFB Trenton, the same Ontario base that has welcomed home the flag-draped caskets of every Canadian soldier killed in Afghanistan. But on Sunday night, police slapped him with another label: serial predator.
Investigators are hesitant to reveal specifics, but the charge sheet speaks for itself, accusing the once-impeccable colonel of leading a secret double life of rape and murder. In September, police say he broke into a pair of homes and attacked two women (both victims lived near Tweed, the same Ontario hamlet where Williams resided). His next alleged victim was Marie-France Comeau, a 38-year-old corporal who was also stationed at CFB Trenton. She was killed inside her home in late-November, her lifeless body discovered by her boyfriend. And this morning, detectives discovered the remains of a second slain woman: 27-year-old Jessica Lloyd of Belleville, Ont., who was missing since Jan. 28. Arrested in Ottawa Sunday night, Williams now faces two counts each of first-degree murder, forcible confinement, break and enter, and sexual assault.
Police are not saying whether the murders were random, or if the colonel, who is married with no children, had a previous relationship with either of the women. Speaking at a press conference today, Detective-Inspector Chris Nicholas of the Ontario Provincial Police also refused to reveal what specific evidence led them to Williams—a man whose 23-year career included a stint flying the VIP Challenger jets used by prime ministers and other dignitaries. Nicholas would only say that Williams came first came to their attention Feb. 4, when officers were questioning motorists on the same rural highway where Lloyd lived. There was “a singularity” in all the incidents, Nicholas said, without providing details. He did say this, however: “We are certainly tracking the movements of where this man has been over the past several years, and we’re continuing on with our investigation.”
Dressed in a blue prison jumpsuit, Williams made a brief appearance today in a Belleville courtroom. He stated his full name, said he understood the charges, and was remanded in custody until another hearing scheduled for Feb. 18.
Needless to say, news of his arrest sent shockwaves through the Department of National Defence, where Williams seemed destined for an eventual promotion to general. As commander of 8 Wing Trenton, he was already in charge of the country’s busiest airbase, a sprawling facility between Ottawa and Toronto that houses transport planes, search and rescue aircraft, and Canada’s Disaster Assistance Response Team (DART). He took over the top job in July. “These are exciting times for the air force,” he said at the time. “I am confident that the team here is up to the task and I look forward to getting right into that work.”
Today, Lieutenant-General André Deschamps, Chief of the Air Staff, issued a far more somber statement. “This situation affects us all and I wish to extend my deepest sympathies to the families of those affected by these tragic events,” he said. “Although one is considered innocent until proven guilty, in light of the seriousness of the charges, and in consideration of the high level of responsibilities attached to the position of Wing Commander, an interim Wing Commander for 8 Wing Trenton will soon be appointed…The Canadian Forces hold their members to a very high standard of conduct and performance, in Canada or abroad, on or off military duty. I confirm that the Air Force is fully supporting civilian authorities in the conduct of the current matter.”
A self-described “avid golfer, keen photographer, fisherman and runner,” Williams enrolled in the Canadian Forces in 1987 after earning an economics and political science degree from the University of Toronto. He received his flying wings in 1990 and two years later was posted to 434 (Combat Support) Squadron in Shearwater, where he flew the CC144 Challenger in the electronic warfare/coastal patrol role. He was subsequently posted to 412 (Transport) Squadron in Ottawa, where he continued to fly the Challenger, this time hauling VIPs. Promoted to major in 1999 and lieutenant-colonel in 2004, he also served as commanding officer at Camp Mirage, the ultra-secretive forward logistics base that the government has never officially acknowledged, but is widely reported to be in Dubai. In January 2009, he was posted to the Canadian Forces Language School in Gatineau, Que., for a six-month period of French training, his last step before Trenton
Col. Russell Williams’ double life? - Canada - Macleans.ca

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OntarioCopper 9th Feb 2010 17:30

Knowing what I know from what I know, I know there is more in the pipework from this guy.......

Make sure your chin straps are tightly fastened........


As a side note, this guy has cast a very long, dark shadow over the Canadian Forces today. Sad, truly sad.

brit bus driver 9th Feb 2010 21:33

To answer the exchange question, yes we do. And a former Exch Officer is now a CF major on 437 Sqn. Sad days for a very professional and close-knit community at Trenton.

Moreover, a former CF Exchange Officer on 216 Sqn is the Wg Ops O at Trenton and has taken over as acting Wg Comd at Trenton.

Farfrompuken 9th Feb 2010 22:39


Moreover, a former CF Exchange Officer on 216 Sqn is the Wg Ops O at Trenton and has taken over as acting Wg Comd at Trenton.
Does that former CF exchange officer still have tourettes??!!:ok: Or is he the milder mannered predecessor?

brit bus driver 9th Feb 2010 22:46

His mild-mannered predecessor. The other guy retired I believe.

zedder 10th Feb 2010 06:43

If you were on CXX Sqn at ISK about 5 years ago, you will also know the current Boss of 429 (Transport) Sqn at Trenton which flys C-17s.

Aviation.ca - Your Number One Source for Canadian Aviation News, Jobs and Information! - “The survivors are so thankful to us”

rotornut 10th Feb 2010 15:12

Here's an update. A very strange case indeed!

The case against the colonel: 'Lingerie break-ins' and a 'treasure trove' of photo evidence - The Globe and Mail

Mish Nish 10th Feb 2010 16:03

There's now a lot of talk about re-opening cold cases which took place wherever Williams was posted.

Including the poor RMC cadet whose body showed up in Lake Ontario a few years ago.

pasptoo 10th Feb 2010 23:34

Next time you get a bollocking from the Boss for not wearing your head gear.......think yourself lucky !:E

GreenKnight121 11th Feb 2010 00:17

From Rotornut's link:

Colonel Russell Williams has given police a lengthy and wide-ranging statement about four dozen so-called "lingerie break-ins," two home invasions that turned into bizarre sexual assaults last September, and the murders of two young women, one a military steward with whom he may have flown.

Several sources have also told The Globe and Mail that the 46-year-old commander of Canadian Forces Base Trenton took detectives to the body of Jessica Lloyd, a 27-year-old who suddenly disappeared on Jan. 29 after texting a friend she had safely arrived home.

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According to those close to the investigation, Col. Williams' statement was delivered in a crisp, almost business-like fashion, less out of contrition, it appeared, than out of a sense of duty ingrained during a 22-year military career.

saudipc-9 11th Feb 2010 21:36


As a side note, this guy has cast a very long, dark shadow over the Canadian Forces today. Sad, truly sad
Unfortunately some members of society are unable to differentiate between the individual and the institution. Rumor has it that a uniformed member of the CF was spat on near Trenton the other day!!

StopStart 20th Oct 2010 19:50

To reiterate my post of 8 months ago "Wow..." :eek:

Erm....

Kinda puts the madnesses of SDSR in the shade somewhat :suspect:

jmp10 20th Oct 2010 21:14

I was with a group of RCAF and RAF veterans near Shearwater not long ago and they were chatting about this case, clearly shocked. And some of them had seen more than him, for example, several had several WW2 tours, including one with over 60 trips under his belt and the associated sights and experiences to boot.
Human nature is fascinating as it is at times terrifying. At least some of them managed to crack a joke though not flippantly so. It's a pity some see one case as a template to view all the forces, past, present and future.

A.

StopStart 20th Oct 2010 21:29

I doubt its got anything to do with what he's "seen" and everything to do with him being a fruit loop.

Ned Parsnip 21st Oct 2010 16:15

Two life sentences for sex killer Williams's 'despicable crimes'


Before delivering the sentence, Judge Scott told Col. Williams that his brutal, senseless crimes mean he will be forever notorious.
“He may best be described as Canada's bright shining lie,” he said.
The judge said there are few mitigating circumstances except for Col. Williams's guilty pleas, which spared the families the grief of a trial. He said he believes the colonel's apology to be sincere but that he remains "an emotionless serial killer."
The former base commander and rising military star was formally convicted earlier this week of two counts of first-degree murder, two counts of sexual assault and forcible confinement and 82 fetish burglaries in which he stole women’s underwear and other intimate items.
Crown attorney Lee Burgess spoke Thursday of the enormous trauma inflicted on Belleville and the surrounding area by “this despicable man,” calling him “one of the worst offenders in Canadian history.”

Pontius Navigator 21st Oct 2010 17:08

Maybe he will enjoy his retirement?

fincastle84 21st Oct 2010 17:13

I just feel very sorry for all concerned, including the offender. Mental illness is a cruel disease.

Samuel 21st Oct 2010 17:15

His knicker drawer is a helluva lot tidier than mine, I must say.... Pity they weren't his.

Pontius Navigator 21st Oct 2010 17:25


Originally Posted by Samuel (Post 6009443)
His knicker drawer is a helluva lot tidier than mine,

Did you really mean that? :)

Fincastle,

If it be mental illness then he should not have been found guilty of murder. However I always consider anyone who commits murder to be mad, so you have a point.

Samuel 21st Oct 2010 19:04

Not really! He had 82 fetish burglaries to his name....I have none!

I am, however, a bit bemused by this story. Is it extra-salacious because he's 'one of us ' so to speak, or is he just another mentally ill individual who just happens to be a Gp Capt?

Pontius Navigator 21st Oct 2010 20:44

Sam, one of us I think. As a mere gp capt that is nothing. OK, the MRAF was caught with his trousers down and only figuaratively in someone eles knickers. Or the AVM who appeared to have a zipper problem in the toilets in Shepherd's Bush.

For the media the issue is that he flew the Queen.

And for the Canadians, shear shock and horror.

Training Risky 21st Oct 2010 21:51

NEWS FLASH: the Con-Air flight carrying Col Williams (ret) and several female RCMPs has been forced down by bad weather. The prisoner was reportedly quite happy about getting stuck in Alberta...

I'll get my coat.

V2-OMG! 25th Oct 2010 01:48

Trenton is the base where those killed in Afghanistan are relayed before embarking upon the "Highway of Heroes."
HIGHWAY OF HEROES | www.VoiceofCanada.ca

What a besmirch upon the morale of those Canadians who have served/are serving. Some gave the ultimate sacrifice to bring order in a country where women are habitually exploited and often murdered.

Modern Elmo 25th Oct 2010 03:08

We all agree that Canada ought to have the death penalty available for egregious murderers such as Williams, don't we?


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