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The B Word 4th Feb 2010 19:23

RAF Types only - Which way to jump?
 
Ok, so we've heard the rumours of "3 into 2". If you had to, which way would you jump? Royal Navy or British Army?

I'll throw my hat in first...ROYAL NAVY...

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/custom/n..._navy_logo.gif

Siggie 4th Feb 2010 19:28

Sorry, but I'd go the third option:(

Stitchbitch 4th Feb 2010 19:40

Well, the Army are okay as are the RN or wafus. If the Army employed NCOs past age 40 then that would be a good option, so long as you could put up with the REM(E)Fy banter and shocking PT standards;) The RN FAA would probably just tip the balance.
But sod that, I'd rather join the Womens Auxillary Balloon Corps than join those two. I joined the RAF, based on what the RAF had achieved, that and it's was 'the family buisness', so I grew up with it.:ok:

Seldomfitforpurpose 4th Feb 2010 19:40

With only a couple of years to go it does not affect me but I would also select option 3 and then have a chat with a damn good legal chap :ok:

airpolice 4th Feb 2010 19:47

Quitters don't win because Winners don't quit
 
Did I miss a page?

Two into three, but where is it written that the RAF will be lost? Perhaps the key to the future Defence of the Realm is to have the RAF absorb the Army and let the Royal Navy provide floating runways for the RAF.

Let's have no more of this Bolshie talk about the RAF being done away with!

Air and Sea Power are the future. If there were fewer boots on the ground we'd have fewer casualties. We could have the Pongos secure airfields and where that's not practical, the air strikes need to be launched from ships.


On further consideration, maybe we don't even need the RAF. Lets just use Trident to wipe out our next "enemy" and finally get some value for money from the Submarines.

Time for my medication,
Evenin' all.

NutLoose 4th Feb 2010 20:00

Surely the two will be the MOD and the Rest :mad::mad:

As there will no doubt be a major debate on the combined forces name, why not future proof it and call it Star Command to align it with our Parliaments political aspirations and as the mottos such as Per Ardu Astra will be a seen by the Army and Royal Navy as being contentious..... perhaps "To Infinity and Beyond" would be better as being catchy and totally unreachable, which would please the Politicians.:mad::mad:


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VinRouge 4th Feb 2010 20:00

Navy I reckon. far more flexible and they actually have brains. As opposed to inheritance.

British Army "Be Well Bred".

Spam_UK 4th Feb 2010 20:09

Who said it's gonna be Navy and Army, I heard (started) the rumour it will be RAF and Army, and we'll absorb the Navy!

Fat Chris 4th Feb 2010 20:16

If (when) the junior service gets binned, I will laugh my c@ck off. Of course, you'll have to pull the majority of their heads from their arses before they'll be allowed in either the RN or the Army.

And before the self-righteous begin, I'm RAF but with a dislike for the way that some think they're the smartest and bestest kids on the block.

The B Word 4th Feb 2010 20:27


Who said it's gonna be Navy and Army, I heard (started) the rumour it will be RAF and Army, and we'll absorb the Navy!
http://www.asrmcs-club.com/images/asrmcs%20badge.gif

Well, there was an RAF Marine Branch...bring back RAF Mount Batten!

We've even got the Ensign sorted:

http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/images/g/gb~rafmv.gif

Lima Juliet 4th Feb 2010 20:48

Royal Flying Corps (RFC) for me!

"Ah! Tally ho, then! Back to the bar. You should join the Flying Corps, George. That's the way to fight a war. Tasty tuck, soft beds and a uniform so smart it's got a PhD from Cambridge."

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Herc-u-lease 4th Feb 2010 22:16

i'd probably say RN - but i might change my mind after the initial entertainment value of the following has worn off: saying: boats instead of ships, kitchen when i mean galley, floor when it's called deck, mess when I know it's the ward room.

any more?

having said that, i ****** hate boats, option 3 for me

Melchett01 4th Feb 2010 22:46


And before the self-righteous begin, I'm RAF but with a dislike for the way that some think they're the smartest and bestest kids on the block.
That's because we are. You need to be able to do more than tie a knot in a bit of wet rope or play polo to get into this fighting organisation don't you know.

Now get back to zee cooler - 30 days.

L J R 5th Feb 2010 03:20

Raaf

.......

D-IFF_ident 5th Feb 2010 04:54

I'll take option 3 please.

Yeller_Gait 5th Feb 2010 09:10

like D_IFF and others, option 3 is the way ahead

Go RAAF

Y_G

PTT 5th Feb 2010 09:38

Go the whole hog and make it all one service. We can call it the Royal Armed Forces :ok:

airborne_artist 5th Feb 2010 09:38

Join the RAC - no need to get a new uniform - think of the savings...:}

Blacksheep 5th Feb 2010 09:45

If defence costs are to be cut to the minimum then the MoD must cease overseas operations carried out for international political advantage and return to its primary role - the defence of the nation. The primary requirements of securing our airspace, our coastline and our lines of supply dictate that we require primarily, a Navy and an Air Defence Force. Indeed, those are the two armed forces that kept the British homeland secure in 1940.

As an island nation, an army is only required in the event that the primary roles fail and invaders set foot upon our shores. In which case Winston Churchill's postulate comes into force.

"We shall fight them on the beaches etc., ....... we shall never give in."

The army are primarily a force of last resort and in the last resort everybody is a soldier in Dad's Army. Which is why Britain has never in its entire history officially had a "Standing Army". Its worth remembering that our rifle clubs and Bisley Camp itself are a remnant of the old County Volunteers that morphed into the Territorial Army.

So in answer to the question, even though I ceased to serve in Britain's finest a long time ago, if I'd been obliged to make a choice of Navy, Army or Civvy Street, I didn't join the Royal Air Force by accident and my choice would have been option 3.

If we were ever under threat of invasion, I can still shoot a 'Possible' at 600 yards and I'd march (or at east totter along) with Dad's Army.

Capt Pit Bull 5th Feb 2010 10:00


"We shall fight them on the beaches etc., ....... we shall never give in."
"...... we shall fight them till the last bullet..... and we shall save that for ourselves! ...... Sgt Wilson, how much ammunition do we have at the moment?"

"1 round each sir"

Geehovah 5th Feb 2010 10:02

Ask the Canadians how well this works. The Canadian experiment took years to execute and yet more years to unpick.

But I guess we could reinvent the wheel again:confused:

So starting from basics:

Defend the Homebase = Air Defence
Defend the sea lanes = Maritime and Air Support
That's the Army up for grabs then. Mind you, we already have the RAF Regiment who could absorb that defensive role.

Duncan Bucket 5th Feb 2010 10:16

Surely rather than choosing which way to jump, it will be by invitation only....a case of "don't call us, we'll call you"?

Fly Navy 101 and still going strong.....I'll get my coat

Gainesy 5th Feb 2010 12:52

Why should the RAF jump anywhere? We don't go round blubbing to Matron about lost IPods and other such crap.

navibrator 5th Feb 2010 13:17

I would rather leave than be part of the Army or the Navy.

Wrathmonk 5th Feb 2010 14:57

I wonder how the RN and British Army are going to manage the job losses / redundancy programmes within thier own Services to make spaces for the light blue transferees .... ;)

Union Jack 5th Feb 2010 15:21

RAF Types only - Which way to jump?
 
However high the Admirals say!:ok:

Jack

Airborne Aircrew 5th Feb 2010 16:34

Perhaps others should be considering the "jump".

A reliable "little bird" recently informed me that the RAF Regiment is forming a new Force Protection Wing, (8 Wing at Waddington), and re-forming No. 58 Squadron RAF Regiment...

Eat your hearts out kids... :ok:

:D

minigundiplomat 5th Feb 2010 16:34

Enjoy working with the AAC, not sure I want to join though. Will not join the RN for the simple reason that I like being straight, and I don't cry when my Ipod is borrowed.


a case of "don't call us, we'll call you"?

Sides splitting. The only people exercising such a policy presently are the RAF, as the huge queue of dark blue beats a path to our door. If the Navy don't want to work for the Navy, I can't see many others rushing to the SW.

Duncan Bucket 5th Feb 2010 17:08

MGD - top drawer banter:D Only straight people in the RAF? How very Equal and diverse.:ok:

Can I borrow your ipod?

asdaasbo 5th Feb 2010 17:13

Cowardly crabs! Who says either the Army or Navy would want you....

Airborne Aircrew 5th Feb 2010 17:20


Cowardly crabs! Who says either the Army or Navy would want you....
Nice one... Right little knee-slapper... Remind me again when the RAF last mis-navigated themselves into surrendering to a bunch of amateurs in a Bass Boat? :E

Hueymeister 5th Feb 2010 17:58

I think his Airship has done a sterling job of bringing it into the open fora, then we the proletariat will then argue the pros, cons and such rubbish..then their lordships can go into bat...honestly, a UKDF may be the way ahead, but the success or lack thereof of other nations who've done this may well prove that it's an exercise we can neither afford nor organise....:}

timex 5th Feb 2010 18:21

I wonder how many will lose pensions when they choose Option 3, after all the MOD will have offered you another job, so take it or leave it? Sorry but the chances of any sympathy off this or any other Govt is highly unlikely no matter which (if any) Service folds!

asdaasbo 5th Feb 2010 18:37

Joking aside, i can not see a viable argument for disbanding any of the forces. They all have their own merits and are necessary for the future defence of the nation whether in a far flung country or at home. I can't believe it is such a contentious issue for the government. As we are at war at the moment you think they would be doing all they can to fund the effort and improve our strength and capabilities. The shortcomings have been highlighted for far to long, whether it be kit for the troops or air support or funding for future technology and investment in defence is what shouls be talked about, not cutting costs.

Gnd 5th Feb 2010 18:52

The RAF couldn't go to the Army - they Army actually work when asked to.
The RAF couldn't go to the Navy - they are willing to spend the time required away from home.

I'd send them to the dole and re-org, virgin and BA can do the useful part of the Farce.

bast0n 5th Feb 2010 19:16

Minitodger dippo


Will not join the RN for the simple reason that I like being straight,
Remember this....................?

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l..._Pink_Crab.jpg

Straight - looks a bit kinky to me:ok:

RumPunch 5th Feb 2010 19:31

Well the new Prime Minister to be Mr Cameron has his seat in Brize Norton area I think and is a regular visitor there ? I may be wrong . Do you reckon the PM for the next 12 years will allow the RAFs largest base be handed over to a service that will have finished in Afghan by then and have no major use again till the next land war in another 2 decades.

Back to question though , Ill pick Navy any day

minigundiplomat 5th Feb 2010 19:45


Ill pick Navy any day
Hello sailor.......


bast0n,

you make me chuckle (but not enough to join the RN). Have a good weekend.

MGD

WarmandDry 5th Feb 2010 19:46

Just found a suitable donor for my No1s, No6, Mess Dress etc. Family was all RN, I was the light blue sheep. Enjoyed working with the FAA and AAC but the Cavalry! Look on the bright side the UK is broke and given the privelige to fly military ac would be more important than the colour of my uniform.


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