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RileyDove 29th Jan 2010 14:42

I am somewhat reminded in this thread of Sean Connery saying he would never do Bond again! I think that the chances of GR.9 dropping weapons in anger are still very good for the old workhorse. Politically any government is going to find it very hard to scrap carriers that have already been started - I would anticipate that the potential Trident replacement stands a far greater chance of being abandoned.
As an insurance policy for the future the Harrier stands a good chance of surviving -in terms of technology, advancement of it's capabilities hasn't been abandoned and the airframes are capable of easily being advanced beyond 2018 -it's been looked at already.
So in essence I would say that F-35 has little or no future and the likely hood of the new carriers having a compliment of Harriers is very high.

andy148 31st Jan 2010 22:08

Ranger, supprisingly it does make a differance what aircraft you have "up there". Its like comparing a ford escort to a BMW, there both cars but both have very differant qualitys!
Is Afghanastan winable? Id say no. We dont have the troops to hold the ground we spend so long trying to cover. Go out day after day, throught he same fields doing the same ****, all the time waiting for the **** to hit the fan! :(
What do i think, controversial as it is lets just get the hell out of there! This will no doubt anger people but hey...thats MY opinion! Feel free to rip it apart!
laters!

Mr Grim 31st Jan 2010 23:11


Mr Grim... as much as it pains me, i have to agree with recc_fac on this one it is indeed called a cas brief now!

I think that B words est of the MQ9 dropping all that ordnance is a tad hopeful! I know as of last year it was averaging about one a month....with a hit rate of 100% every two months http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/wink2.gif too much time in down town LV if you ask me!! No offence guys....
I'm not saying what doctrine / training uses (only do ops, don't you know) but I have heard a lot (50-100?) of operational 9-lines in the last year and every single one has been called a 9-line by both JTACs of many nationalities and aircrew from a large range of aircraft. Maybe you are right and everyone in the coalition in Afghanistan is wrong!

Second point - if you are implying that Reaper has a hit rate of 50% and/or that UK FJs employ anywhere near the same amount of weapons as Reaper then you are seriously misinformed (again I am talking about ops, Garvie / HWD don't count).

Pure Pursuit 1st Feb 2010 06:34

Mr Grim,

although you are quite correct that the term 9 liner is used out in theatre, it is infact incorrect. CAS Briefs replaced them a while back and any reference to a 9 line brief should be in connection with MERT!

Most British JTACs are actually using the correct terminology. Call it splitting hairs however, it makes a difference up in C2 when someone shouts, 'A 9 liner has just come in.'

ZuluMike 5th Feb 2010 14:56

a little something for the FAC?
 
Flying Marines

orca 5th Feb 2010 18:21

ZM

I am a little concerned that, due to the way it's written, some people might consider that to be a joke.

Regards,

Orca.

Thelma Viaduct 5th Feb 2010 19:24

This thread is just a vehicle the OP is using to boast about his/her job, just another pprune acronym chopper IMO.


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