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cazatou 13th Jan 2010 14:06

Flarkey

Gordon is going to hire them back from Nigeria 'cos they have painted the vehicles "Fire Engine Red".

grandfer 13th Jan 2010 14:24

Could be a bit of confusion there for the Brown one if he wants "Green" Goddesses & now some wally has now painted them "Red", still there are plenty in the dole queues who can hold a paint brush !:ok:

vecvechookattack 13th Jan 2010 15:34


Many will assume that Britain should fight to maintain its position in the international pecking order, but that ignores an alternative approach. Instead of struggling to project power abroad, we should focus on pursuing fairness at home. This means prioritising spending on education, health and anti-poverty measures.

In the post-recession world, this sceptred isle will be forced to become a more pragmatic and modest nation. The £20bn renewal of Trident, little more than a national virility symbol, must be cancelled. Military intervention abroad, humanitarian or otherwise, will become increasingly unthinkable.
. ...............

Pontius Navigator 13th Jan 2010 15:42

Gainsey, the Treasury only pays the insurance policy excess. The MOD remains responsible for the premium. In other words, everything that you would normally spend the cash on is not refunded. So Treasury would argue that extra Chinnies are not part of the war costs, neither is training of crews, use of fuel etc.

The MOD, OTOH, would counter that these are all extras!

That make sense?

minigundiplomat 13th Jan 2010 15:55


there are plenty in the dole queues who can hold a paint brush !
Lets have some regime change, and let them hold a hose or a ladder if the firemen want to go on strike again.

Grimweasel 13th Jan 2010 19:30

So, here we are at war in Afghan with a UK Military that's on it's knees, we are facing serious capability gaps (hmm, think Maritime recce etc); Defence budget of £35ish Bn per annum and just how much did we bail out those greedy risk taking tossers in the city for??? £800Bn odd??

Why the UK populous has idly sat by and let Bn's of our money be given back to banks for them to carry on as normal is beyond me??

Why did the markets rally this year? QE provided by the BoE pumped £200Bn odd of 'free' money into the economy. That money has been greedily swallowed up by the banks and pumped into the stock market. All the bankers annual bonus payments are directly linked to the performance of the indices (FTSE etc) so they had a vested interest to pump money into that vehicle knowing they'd receive a slice of the performance in their own bonus payments come the year's end???

Surely this is a massive 'insider-deal' for personal gain on the part of these idiots all subsidized by the tax payer??

So, while they all buy their new Aston's and Cotswold houses in the next few months I hope they spare a thought for the very people that are defending their freedom in far away lands who give them THEIR freedom for them to rob us blind and ensure we live in poverty for generations.

Cheers (not!):ugh::D

Saintsman 13th Jan 2010 19:48

The country will only wake up when a Falklands type incident occurs and we will be unable to take it back.

Or you never know, third time lucky for Germany......

Wiley 13th Jan 2010 20:20


The country will only wake up when a Falklands type incident occurs and we will be unable to take it back.
The way things are going, in five years from now, that "Falklands type incident" could be the Isle of Man.

Ali Barber 13th Jan 2010 20:32

Don't worry Grimweasel, come the revolution.......... Do you want to be a pusher or an oiler?

TorqueOfTheDevil 13th Jan 2010 21:31

Is it just me, or is it perverse that we are rushing to spend money and effort on helping Haiti...

...yet the rescuers and equipment are stuck at Gatwick because we don't have enough money to spend on keeping our major airports operational when a few inches of snow fall?

And don't get me started on our soldiers having inadequate equipment, living in rat-infested barracks and mouldy quarters etc etc...

RumPunch 13th Jan 2010 21:48

Well as bad as it seems Al Quieda have near but won a part of there war now against the west and the UK. The UK forces have now been reduced so much now you have to wonder if Gordon Brown is actually working for them.

Sad times ahead but Labour dont care much they are making things as difficult as possible for a new government to now come in and make a difference , most people in the UK are too stupid to see this.
Call me cynical but Im fed up ranting all the time about our military and our livelyhood being destroyed, let the Russians attack and take us over. I for one think it will be good.

Im removing myself from the soap box now :ugh:

drustsonoferp 14th Jan 2010 18:30

Formertonkaplum:

Brilliant. Using your gifted insight perhaps we can bring the country back from the brink. Have you considered passing on your master stroke to your local MP, or perhaps a major daily newspaper?

grandfer 14th Jan 2010 18:40

Don't forget , Gordon's still got to try and recoup the money for the typical over the top "panic buying" of 50-odd million doses of Swine Flue vaccine that some brilliant drug company rep. persuaded them to buy that nobody wants . Pity a similar rep. couldn't have persuade them to buy our Forces some decent equipment instead !

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Modern Elmo 15th Jan 2010 01:01

Is it just me, or is it perverse that we are rushing to spend money and effort on helping Haiti...

White man's burden.

:White men's greed leaves the world in need."

-- Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

OCCWMF 15th Jan 2010 08:34

Rum Punch, you're cynical. And bereft.


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