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Strobin Purple 29th Dec 2008 08:04

So they beat the green army over the border in Granby (like the majority of the RAF)

TELIC?....I've got video evidence at PUP of one of our unsmiling but happy near-tame (SH) Sqn Rocks in the very early hours of 22 Mar 03 on top of Safwan hill, beating all but the SF els of the British Army, RM and the rest of the RAF Regt over the border. Defence rests.

Strobin Purple 29th Dec 2008 08:12

BTW Nurse, I've just read your thread several times and it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

I know you were probably bunking off school, nicking cars and setting fire to cats during the decade of primary and secondary schooling that included grammar and the use of punctuation, hence your great affinity with the British Army, but could you get a grown-up in your organisation (an RAF exchange bloke will be able to help, regardless of rank) to go over any of your posts prior to submitting. Thanks.

SP

Jobza Guddun 29th Dec 2008 10:43

At least NURSE will be able to self-treat the firearm wound to his foot...

The Burning Bush 29th Dec 2008 11:59

NURSEY

I don't seam to recall the RAF Regt having armour on Granby or being in the Vanguard. That was done by REAL soldiers. RLC went through the Berms in unarmoured trucks carrying supplies much closer to the front line than the regt ever was.
Have sat and listened to some of the regts Kn0bs going on about how they are on power with the RM's/Para's but when they walk into the usual trap about what their actual role is and which army units have a similar Job description it boils down to the Loggies Pioneer regiment (who are a dam sight more flexible being able to do light building work, drive MHE/Plant, run the mortuary etc etc etc)
Yes the army do see helecopters as a truck with a fan on top but thats what they are to most troops a way of moving from A-B or getting kit from A-B as long as they are available and arrive on time without much hassel troops are happy to let those tasked with looking after them do their Job. Why do troops have problems maybe training issues maybe by the time they're comming to use them they have an awful lot more things on their minds.


As to idea of CAS to merge AAC and FAA into the RAF has been tried before in 1920/30's and set naval avation back a decade. CAS should look at providing the Army and Navy with the support they need as opposed to empire building
The reason that you don't get the difference between PPrune and ARRSE is the same reason that I joined the RAF Regt and not the Army. And I'm not even going to mention the factual and spelling errors in your last post.....:ugh:

Speaking of Kn0bs......NURSE....NURSE :E

sitigeltfel 29th Dec 2008 14:33

Anyone remember Bishopscourt in NI back in the seventies when the Rocks only guarded the Ops site at Killard Point between 8am - 8pm?
They would slope off and hand security over to ATC Ops and the Radar Techs.

We always thought they were scared of the dark :{

BackfromIraq 29th Dec 2008 16:37

Having been through the obligatory CCS and GDT, operational training and IRT with them, then working closely with them out on the ground around KAF, I must say that they deal with the monotony of teaching the same courses every month, word-for-word as per the SOPs and training directives, with astonishing good humour and do try to make everything they did to us fun, interesting and a positive experience.

Equally, when the Army (NSE/PJHQ) wanted to rip myself and a colleague to pieces for applying mission command, they stepped in to point out, quite clearly, that IRT allowed us to operate outside the wire "occasionally" and that the Army personnel would never have been allowed to operate with them unless they had been through equivalent training. Additionally they very kindly pointed out that most Army personnel who went out to do our job would never have been trained to the same standard that we were.

The fact that they knew to what level we were trained, regardless of the units we'd come from, gave them the confidence to take us, immediately, on board which gave us confidence in them.

Utterly professional in all aspects, I have nothing but the greatest respect for them.

KeepItTidy 31st Dec 2008 01:42

I think the RAF Reg should give the techies some saving grace now , years of abuse and crap ,give it to us please we do not have wallets that can hit as bad , we are a lonely breed now . In return you will get inflight meals :) :ok:

Biggus 31st Dec 2008 08:29

I haven't bothered to read all 91 posts of infighting, but it seems to me that, at this time of year, the answer to the question "What are the RAF Regiment for?" is obvious......

The RAF Regiment are for life - not just for Christmas........!!

I'll go and get my hat and coat, I'll need it, it's b****y cold outside!

Rigger1 31st Dec 2008 12:25

RAF Regt - Bloody good, well trained troops that are worth their weight in gold.

Now the real question should be ... What are RAF PTi's for?

Grabbers 31st Dec 2008 15:48

What are RAF Bandspeople for? Surely a few CD's knocking around each station and Bose amps and speakers would be cheaper? You could always dress up a few Rocks in full musical trappings, take their pics and use cardboard cutouts to provide that real authentic experience. :ok:

St Johns Wort 31st Dec 2008 16:39

Rocks are first rate guys doing a sterling job in all of their roles. However, has anybody got a scoobie WTF Movers and Coppers are for? :E

gar170 31st Dec 2008 16:53

Can't believe it took 95 posts before some A**hole brought the movers into it :ugh:.

Wrathmonk 31st Dec 2008 17:21

Grabbers


What are RAF Bandspeople for? Surely a few CD's knocking around each station and Bose amps and speakers would be cheaper?
Careful what you wish for. Just remember what happened when some bright spark said "What are RAF Admin staff for? Surely a few computers knocking around each station and JPA software would be cheaper?":E

minigundiplomat 31st Dec 2008 18:06

Have to agree with WM.

Likewise the movers. They may be an inconvenience, but imagine the jobsworth civvy who eventually reluctantly issues you keys to a car at MT in charge of your flight home at the end of a 4-6 month tour? Hmm, see where Im coming from?

Grabbers 31st Dec 2008 19:07

How critical is the ability to play a oboe, pink or otherwise? I know there is a spurious rumour going around about the muso's being stretcher bearers but I've seen a few people on stretchers over the last few years and not one attending person was banging a drum with cymbals strapped between their knees.

KeepItTidy 31st Dec 2008 22:01

GW1 hundreds of techies,suppliers, cooks , etc etc all told you going to war, we might all die due to chemical misshaps and bad stuff. Many worried and thank god for the Regiment to give people that were going extra lessons

What are rocks good for , and thats war , they know how to train people up that dont have that war fighting skills . Something I think the Army guys (not special and all that ) could learn , to be able to pass skilss on to others.

Happy NY Rocks , least a few techies appreciate what you guys do , even though i still say you all wankers at GDT hehehehe

Pontius Navigator 1st Jan 2009 09:33


Originally Posted by Airborne Aircrew (Post 4609905)
Aggressive patrolling, (which is what Regiment field squadrons do), is quite specialized and more challenging that one might think. It's actually quite easy for a small force to infiltrate any given area so it takes a high level of skill from what is, after all, a very small force to locate the enemy.

Quite.

On exercise my daughter led a team that discovered a SAS hide. It was empty at the time but after 2 days of Welsh mist the SAS gave up and asked for their kit back. On a US exercise, as an SAC, she was patrol leader of a mix US/UK group. They were over

run in defence but got a 3:1 kill ratio. The US, and indeed the Army, can't get their heads around the SAC rank.

St Johns Wort 1st Jan 2009 09:38

gar170
 
And I cant believe that this thread went to 93 posts, you sensitive little dipstick.

The rocks are what they have always been, 1st rate soldiers who had the wit to join a service that offered a much better 'after sales service'.

Anybody know what this yellow and black thing is for?

gar170 1st Jan 2009 13:28

St Johns Wort
Anybody know what this yellow and black thing is for?

sounds like your school crossing sign;).


you sensitive little dipstick

ZH875 1st Jan 2009 13:40


Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator (Post 4621374)
The US, and indeed the Army, can't get their heads around the SAC rank.

They may not need to in future, as "
The rank of lance corporal (LCpl) is to be introduced to the Gunner trade in Apr 10 to identify the critical leadership role undertaken by nominated and experienced Gunners on RAF Regt front-line units........ RAF Regt LCpls will be paid as for LCpls in the British Army and Royal Marines. On promotion to LCpl, all SACs will receive a pay rise ..... RAF Regt LCpls will be paid on the lower pay band."

So the RAF get rid of JT rank for the techies, and then create a LCpl rank for the Rocks, thankfully "
LCpls will not have the power to bring formal charges against subordinate ranks"


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